Could Jack Dempsey beat Frank Bruno?

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I just meant, that others should rate/ judge something, not you and me who are the 2 candidates here...

 

I see you're delving more deep into the sea of hypocrisy here.

 

I (and everybody else here on ESB) just see what a moron you are, you probably think you´re really intelligent with your little verbal word-games, but instead of your literary games here you should concentrate yourself on certain main points...

 

I was referring to the smilie you posted in the last post, if you didn't know what I meant.

 

Don´t you get it? Your posts ooze of deep intelligence, how should I understand your brilliant indirect teasings? :think

 

Sometimes if we shovel enough **** we can unearth the truth.

In a perfect world, Dempsey would have faced Wills and Ali would have never come back after beating Spinks.

I simply try to measure up the two men in the fantasy fight in turn in my head based on their abilities with respect to each other. Firpo, a big, powerful man, troubled Dempsey as he would almost any other great that night, simply because he became a windmill, throwing nonstop punches. Could Bruno do this? Bruno jabbed slow as molasses though was dangerous on the inside with that left hook.

But Dempsey was not a mere, one-gear, forward plodder, to be rattled by Bruno's ponderous blows. Dempsey could box in and out, looking for the right opening, just as he did against Willard. And he could do it patiently, round after round. He had a better chin to withstand any Bruno ramrod blows, while, on the other hand, Bruno proved he could be shocked with one hard shot, even when winning, every time he stepped up in class. Dempsey would probably crack that questionable chin, sooner or later, or else win a decision.

Of course, Bruno would be the most ripped man Dempsey ever faced. But his skills and performance do not persuade me that he could get the better of Dempsey.

 

I'm just trying to show you why you were wrong. No need to take it the wrong way.

 

Instead of teaching others something, you should look at yourself what is wrong with your head for example...

 

I try to do that everyday. You should take some of you own advice.

 

Woah, you counter with the stuff I came with, what a creative keyboard-warrior...

 

In his sleep!!!!!!!!!

 

Good points here, but can a 37 year old inactive Willard truly be compared to a peak prime version of Frank Bruno? Bruno was in phenomenal physical shape, held his guard close to his body, had a good jab, and a right which knocked Gerrie Coetzee through the ropes in one round. Does this mean he'd fair well against Dempsey? I don't know truthfully. I still feel that win, lose or draw Jack would have his hands full in this one.

 

I agree Dempsey would have his hands full with Bruno, as Tyson did, and could even momentarily be taken aback by Bruno's sheer size and strength. After all, it's two guys in there both with two fists.

But, like Rocky said, "Fightin' is 90% in the skull and [whack to the heavy bag] 10% in the body." Besides the physical and tactical aspects, there is the mental aspect. Dempsey was a champion who proved he could fight through adversity to victory. Yes, the reporters helped him back in the ring, as they would any other fighter, but he was hardly knocked out cold. Had he not made it back within 10, he would most likely have become the first man to regain the crown in a rematch, as he proved he was superior to Firpo in a fight to the finish.

Bruno, on other other hand, only disappointed when on the big stage. He never showed he had the heart of a champion to take Dempsey's (or Witherspoon's, or Tyson's, or Lewis') crown.

 

That wasn't meant to be a counter. You take this internet arguing thing too seriously. Chill out.

 

There is no question in my mind that Dempsey had the heart of a lion. To think otherwise would be insulting to his memory. But I also think, however that Bruno showed great courage even in his losing efforts. No one was beating Tyson at the time Bruno fought him. Most men were terrified of him, and Bruno had been off for 16 months prior to that fight. Smith, Witherspoon and Lewis were all giants with incredible ability and Bruno was leading in those fights before being stopped. He also had good wins over McCall, Coetzee, Coetzer, Tillis and several other decent men. Bruno was a very dangerous fighter who should be taken seriously.

Nevertheless, your points about Jack are well taken.