Could Jack Sharkey floor Wladimir Klitchsko

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    And how would he do against Wladimir? He did drop a SHW in Carnera
     
  2. BCS8

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    Doubt it. Wlad is a defensive master, and never more so than against little guys. Even without his huggery, which is the knell of doom for the shorties, he showed against Chagaev how a small guy with no reach is all but helpless against him.
     
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  3. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like Sharkey but he is not the quality of fighter Wlad is. Not even looking at the size difference. He'd stay outside of Wlad's jab, eat one-twos, the occasional left hook and get KOed in the midrounds.
     
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  4. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I think Sharkey absolutely floors Wlad in exactly the same way he floored Primo. Why not? Primo was not that glass jawed really was he? Max Baer couldn’t nail him down For a full count and nor could Joe Louis. both times primo was saved by the referee and these are ATG punchers. All time.

    If Sharkey put down Primo he can put down anybody. And he could possibly put most of them down for longer than he put Primo down.
     
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  5. mcvey

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    Carnera told the referee to stop both fights.I think Baer could have gotten him out of there had he really gone for it, he was clowning and enjoying himself in there.
    Louis was prevented from finishing the job by Primo's surrender. Young Stribling dropped Carnera and so did several others, his chin wasn't great.
    Dropping Carnera doesn't mean you can duplicate that feat against more iron jawed opponents and Sharkey wasn't a puncher.He could conceivably floor Wlad but I doubt he would have him doing the chicken dance at any stage.
     
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  6. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I think there is evidence Sharkey was quite a puncher. He gave Wills a severe Walloping. He sparked Loughran. Sparked Jack Delaney. He could hit.
     
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  7. BCS8

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    There's no doubt that Sharkey could hit, and if he landed flush and big, Klitschko could well find himself in trouble with his middling chin. That's not, I believe, in dispute.

    It's just that I can't see him landing flush, and I can't see how he'd avoid the massive problems that Wlad has caused every other small fighter. Namely, he's very mobile for a big guy, he has a great jab and reach and he likes to use that jab not only to punish the small guys but to rangefind for his own artillery shells. It's all very well trying to run him down, but after a boxer has tasted some of the cannonballs Wlad can feed in return, they become a lot less ambitious.

    Finally, assuming he gets into position to throw down, what's going to happen?

    Oh, yeah. Dr Octopus is going to wrap his tentacles around him and lean on him. So Sharkey's also going to need a favourable referee that won't stand for this sort of nonsense.

    It's a tall ask. Pardon the pun.
     
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  8. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I agree with BCS. IF Sharkey hit Wlad, he could certainly drop, or even stop, Wlad. But, it is very unlikely Sharkey ever lands that money punch. And, a KO victory for Wlad is far more likely.
     
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  9. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    Sharkey was a world class fighter, of course he could, it never took much to take waldo out.
     
  10. mcvey

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    Wills fouled out to save himself from further punishment, both Loughran and Delaney were light heavyweights. Sharkey was not a big puncher imo.We are talking about him flooring 240lbs plus quality super heavyweight here,it could happen but Sharkey's ko stats are not encouraging.
     
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  11. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In fairness to Sharkey, he could hit when he wanted to despite his low KO%. Aside from some of the fighters mentioned whom he stopped, he really had Dempsey hurt in the first round of their bout and really splattered Jimmy Maloney in 5, which is on youtube. I really liked his bob and weave against the big man Carnera and dealt with the strongman tactics so this would not be new to Sharkey or insurmountable. Wlad had a basic jab, jab, right and clinch. So again, nothing new and I really believe this could be anyone's fight.
     
  12. BCS8

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    Those making out Wlad to be some run of the mill fighter sound awfully like the guys that were criticizing Holmes ... funny how a sparse handful managed to win against him in 20 years of fighting.
     
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  13. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    That’s a very good reply. Especially the part where you note the Dr octopus cheating. However, sharkey fought a very smart fight with carnera. In open boxing he used his speed advantage to great effect against the big man. Was wlad any quicker than Primo? I don’t think he was, and if wlad was able to succumb to Brewster why not Sharkey?
     
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  14. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes, but it's unlikely.
     
  15. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Only punchers ever put Wlad down, and bigger heavier men than Sharkey. Wlad fought many fighters world class that couldn't connect with him clean, and when they did its not like he instantly crumbled
     
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