Could Jersey Joe Walcott Have Being a ATG?

InMemoryofJakeLamotta · Sep 1, 2018

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I see. I have a better understanding of what you're getting at, now. I can't claim to be an expert on Walcott's life, times and career; particularly, his early fights and I would have to study these aspects to form a picture and opinion on 'what could have been'.

Some of his early losses seem intriguing. The defeat to Maxim in '46 seems a bit dubious. I am also aware of references to his hands getting damaged in fights at around the same time, e.g. his subsequent defeat to Ray.
With the toolset that Walcott would develop, it's not inconceivable that he might have been more successful, earlier - if in better care/management. But to what, if any, extent, I could not say.

Ultimately, Walcott made his name through his tussles with titanic names. There's no shame in his Losses to Louis (one a close decision) and his quadrilogy with the significantly younger Charles, ending with him taking the latter two battles, actually helps with elevating his status, in my opinion. In his first meeting with Marciano, he stretched Rocky further than he'd ever been taken before, at that point. Walcott was, by then, an old man by any standards - even as a late bloomer.

His losses are a source of some frustration, for sure. On balance, however, I think he's up there with the best, despite them.
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Great summary

Fergy · Sep 2, 2018

Man_Machine said: ↑

I see. I have a better understanding of what you're getting at, now. I can't claim to be an expert on Walcott's life, times and career; particularly, his early fights and I would have to study these aspects to form a picture and opinion on 'what could have been'.

Some of his early losses seem intriguing. The defeat to Maxim in '46 seems a bit dubious. I am also aware of references to his hands getting damaged in fights at around the same time, e.g. his subsequent defeat to Ray.
With the toolset that Walcott would develop, it's not inconceivable that he might have been more successful, earlier - if in better care/management. But to what, if any, extent, I could not say.

Ultimately, Walcott made his name through his tussles with titanic names. There's no shame in his Losses to Louis (one a close decision) and his quadrilogy with the significantly younger Charles, ending with him taking the latter two battles, actually helps with elevating his status, in my opinion. In his first meeting with Marciano, he stretched Rocky further than he'd ever been taken before, at that point. Walcott was, by then, an old man by any standards - even as a late bloomer.

His losses are a source of some frustration, for sure. On balance, however, I think he's up there with the best, despite them.
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Good point s. I personally rate Jersey way up higher in terms of skill than a lot of certain more successful great s .He just didn't have the right card's dealt in life more than once .But he proved how great he actually was by hanging in there and getting his dues in later life .

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