Could JMM outbox Tito?? (GULP)

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  1. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    You know thats the thing. Pacquiao, MAB, Kats, all these fighters that dropped Marquez are'nt particularly much more powerful or stronger than Marquez.
    I believe Marquez gauges off of punches he parry's and even recieves if he can take it to the next level and take a few chances with combination power.
    A fighter like Trinidad, Marquez would feel the power just off of parrying his shots, so there's not way I see him getting overzealous against that type of murderous puncher.

    For those uneduated and dont know squat about real punching power.
    At 147 lbs Manny Pacquiao is an average puncher in comparison with Tito.
    Marquez would know this right off the bat and not get overzealous against a real one punch power shooter like Trinidad.
     
  2. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Katsidis and Pacquiao definitely hit harder. He knew coming into the fight Katsidis hit hard and told the commentators "I don't want to find out" in response to them asking if he's the hardest hitter he's faced since Pac. Ended up doing it anyway. It's not a guarantee but it's a palpable concern.

    If JMM fights like he did at 126, he can move and evade a lot more sharply. But 135+ Marquez doesn't usually fight as defensively as he used to.
     
  3. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    He's fully capablel of fighting within a defensive window if he puts his mind to it, which he'd have to vs Trinidad.
    He did it in Pacquiao 3, limiting his combinations and stopping himself from getting overzealous even when his one's two's were nailing Pacquiao with authority.

    Fight 4 is a different matter. A mindset of a fighter being that the only way for justice was to take it upon yourself.
     
  4. Zopilote

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    Diffrence being that Pacquiao and Marquez are pretty much around the same size, and are small at Welter. Tito was a huge Welter and hit much more harder than both MP and JMM.
     
  5. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    Tito would stop Marquez.
     
  6. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    JMM was far faster at 126lbs than the JMM of the last few years fighting at Welter. Thats pretty clear to see.
     
  7. Zopilote

    Zopilote Dinamita Full Member

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    JML gets murdered.

    I shudder to think of the damage those overhand rights that JMM would be landing over and over again would do.
     
  8. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Fight 3 came to mind as I was writing the post, fought a disciplined fight few thought he could still manage.
     
  9. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I'll take Felix by early KO.

    :smoke
     
  10. HellSpawn86

    HellSpawn86 "My heart goes out to you!" Full Member

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    JMM is one of my favorite current fighters, but he is wayyyyyy past it and doesn't belong at 147. Neither does MP, but he is the only one of the 2 that has fought other legit 147 lbers. Their primes were at 130 and below, probably 126. They are just that skilled and the current crop at 147 is just not that good. However weight classes belong for a reason and in previous years JMM and MP would have never had success at the higher weights.
     
  11. Smokin' Joe

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    JMM did well at 147 because Pacquiao's style plays into his hands. He is not a 147 fighter, lets get that straight first of all. That said, he's never been knocked out and I don't think it'd happen here either. Loses on the cards to prime Trinidad, in all likelyhood.
     
  12. Koa

    Koa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Never thought Tito was that good of a boxer. The better comparison is Cotto, who is a better boxer than Tito.. Tito had good fundamentals but seemed kinda slow compared to his competition at the time.. I mean everywhere, handspeed, footspeed, footwork.. He wasn't the prototypical Boricua slick boxer or slick boxer puncher. He was a boxer puncher, but more fundamentally solid than flashy.

    He had major power and great ability to recover with a big heart. Sort of guy that could turn a fight around with one punch, and he had great finishing instincts. The sort of power he carried was special, sort of tide turning momentum in his hands.
     
  13. angelos

    angelos Well-Known Member Full Member

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    P4P yes. But Tito is a natural bigger fighter than JMM and probably would put Marquez to sleep before 10.
     
  14. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    He just doesn't have the feet to get the job done here.
     
  15. PR BOXING

    PR BOXING Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So roy jones couldn't do it but marquez can. . .

    Tito tko 7.