Could Joshua have better resistance than Wilder in fighting Fury?

Hit in the sweet spot, same spot where Ruiz hit Joshua....
The resistance would be about the same.

 

What do you mean by resistance?

Punch resistance ? AJ can take a punch as evidenced by Wlad and Ruiz 2 fights but he panics so hard to say.
Fury can KO him if he puts his mind to it.

Can AJ resist Fury’s offence better than Wilder? AJ actually has decent boxing skills as well as power so yeah, he’ll be much harder to beat than a guy looking for one good punch all night.

 

A lot of people here just don`t know anything about boxing and shots in boxing.
Its one thing to be hit when you are on the back foot, and trying to avoid the shot, and its a completely different shot, when someone counter you, when you are on the front foot throwing punches and going forward.
Joshua was hit by counter hook, when he was pressing the attack, and the shot from Ruiz land full power/speed right on the temple, it was game over that moment, cause Joshua was concussed and never recover from that shot. It was hard, hard counter shot, when Joshua was pressing.

While Wilder was hit when he was on defence, and in the same time he block that shot partially with his shoulder, and the shot didn`t land flush at all. There is 2832367327 replays out there, i don`t know whether some people are that blind or just s***** to not see this.

Wilder punch resist are terrible. He was dropped by average shot and goes down. Same as the second knockdown to the body with Fury lead hand, which is his left. Just terrible.

Joshua was hit flush by one of the biggest puncher in the division and he stayed on his feet. His chin may not be iron, but he can take a shot.
In orders to Knock Joshua out, you need accumulated punches, you need to throw plenty of combo to do so.
With Wilder you just need A level fighter with semi-decent shot and he is on the canvas.

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As of now there is no proper plan to outbox Fury, even if Deontay Wilder was refined to Floyd Mayweather precise perfection. The problem is that Fury is a master at the range-game, he relied on light-handed boxing all his career, which made him an expert at using range. You will need a 6'10" elite level boxer to outbox Fury, Elite level boxing is non-existent at 6'10" as of 2020.

This leaves any opponent with only one option, Knocking out Fury, this is also extremely difficult, because its hard to catch Fury clean, he is excellent at reducing impact even when hit clean. He usually doesn't commit to punches (except in his last fight), so you can't catch him coming in with a clean counter. Finally if Fury is caught clean, he has exceptional recovery abilities, all these problems exist for a Rangy Deontay Wilder who doesn't lose a lot from being out-boxed, as he always goes for the KO. Those problems become bigger for anyone who is not Deontay Wilder.

Deontay Wilder rubber-match improvement will be conditioning. Increasing the volume of output requires coming in lighter, if he can land more, the chances increase of catching Fury & putting him down as many times needed to win. Fury can help Wilder by repeating the 2nd fight game plan & attempting to crowd a lighter more energetic Deontay Wilder who added this scenario, he can prepare to catch Fury clean every time he comes in & Wilder re positions himself for an immediate re-launch at Fury before he gets his feet set for the Right hand launching. Fury can't beat Deontay Wilder in this category as he always been a high stamina upper-body puncher & was able to add full body punches for moments of the fight, which is not the same as attempting as keeping the full body ready to deliver punches for 12 rounds, something Tyson Fury can't do.

 

I would expect Joshua to do a lot better against Fury than Wilder did on Saturday night.
Joshua is bigger and can box. Joshua can give Fury a very tough fight and might beat him.
I've always rated Fury better than Joshua but it's close to a 50-50 fight.

If Joshua took the same amount of clean flush punches to the head from Fury as Wilder did though, he'd be in a similar level of distress, there's no question about that.

 

AJ has nowhere near the resistance of Wilder, he took shot after shot from Fury, AJ would have been stopped after much less punishment but is a smarter fighter, Wilder was poor v Fury and didn`t have a guard like AJ has, Wlad missed six hooks while AJ was on the ropes on rubbery legs because of where AJ`s right glove is held, Wilder`s hands wee low and he tried to post with his lead as a defense which works v shorter reaches but was the worst thing you could do against a guy wit an 85 inch reach, which is the reason Foremandidn`t like fighting long fighters because he would post with his arms to, it worked great v Norton and Frazier to push them on the outside, but that kind of defense is useless v a long armed fighter.

 

If Joshua is still fighting after absorbing that much punishment that will be admirable. However, Deontay Wilder fearless dominance is formed at child-hood either genetically or by environment or both, no training for that. The normal survivalist life-first human approach takes over & Joshua will fall into that groove as he did vs Ruiz. Tyson Fury fights up to the level of opposition, so Joshua can prolong the fight by making it a boxing affair & attempt to avoid everything Fury throws, he can't KO Fury, so his best option is to go to the cards and hope for the best.

• Tyson Fury vs Anthony Joshua (Tyson Fury is a 9:1 favorite)
• Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder III (Tyson Fury is a 3:1 favorite)

 

Thank you!

I’m not big on Joshua or Wilder but Joshua gets far too much flack.

Did people miss the parts where Wilder was hurt by a Fury jab... not a power shot, a well timed jab! He was a history of it too. Smoke and mirrors eventually had to let the truth come through. Wilder is D class boxer with A+ power and C level chin.

You really can tell you are in the minority if you’ve actually boxed a round on this forum. It’s beyond laughable at times

 

Fury would undress Joshua like he did Wilder less we not forget AJ struggling and almost getting KO'd by Wlad while fury outbox him in a boring masterclass making him look like a slow old man, AJ was also KO'd by Ruiz before opting to jab and move in the rematch.
Skill wise AJ isn't the better boxer and doesn't have the physical tools outside of athleticism but then again that could be close or a wash. I think this fight comes down to is Fury motivated and what kind of show he wants to put on.

 

I don't think AJ would be hit as much as Wilder was.

But Fury is 19 Stone, if you get smacked in the mouth by a man weighing 19 Stone.. you are likely to be in a little bit of trouble.

 

Considering AJ is beter in everyway possible than Wilder other than an otherhand right.

- Better ring IQ
-better guard
- better head movement
- better footwork
- better at controlling/judging the range of the fight
- better fighting on the inside
- better chin
- more variety of punches
- best uppercut in the divison
- best combination puncher in the divison
- better jab
- better hook
- works the body more effectively

 

Obviously AJ would do far better than Wilder and has a better chance of winning as he doesnt lose rounds, and carries more than enough power to hurt Fury from a variety of punches... except his non existent jab... but jabbing against an 85 inch reach is hard anyway

Expect AJ to be far better than Wilder because he actually knows how to box well

 

If Fury would fight Joshua the same way he fought Wilder, I'd favor Joshua by KO.
Joshua comes up with powerful shots at close range, while Wilder needs range. Completely different styles.

 

I think Joshua will be better equiped to face an aggressive Fury. He is stronger and has much better fundamentala and variety of tools than Wilder. I also think he is a more compact puncher than Fury and would be favored in midrange exchanges.