Could Kostya ever have beaten Floyd?

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  1. gr8fight

    gr8fight Active Member Full Member

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    Floyd would have to be more aggressive which makes for a VERY TOUGH fight. Its not an easy fight to control for floyd given the styles
     
  2. gr8fight

    gr8fight Active Member Full Member

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    How? he wasn't so popular He is more underrated. He beat forrest in the ameatures
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Tyszu didnt have a **** defense? Every contender he fought hit him easily. Tyszus as wide open as a hookers legs
     
  4. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    Floyd if he fought Tszyu would have pot shotted his way to a descsion most proably. He would not be beating anybody up. He would be nuts to ever try to engage Tszyu and risk getting half caught with the right, which would stun him then he could be in some deep ****.
     
  5. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tszyu is top 10 all time P4P.

    He one of the very best boxers to ever exist.
     
  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Floyds a master of taking away an opponents best punch. He may concentrate on the left hand work or just get into positions to land his right before Tyszu could get his own off.

    Hatton does not have a good right hand but his speed and footwork allowed him to exchange rights with Tyszu and come off better

    Tyszu would miss and be made to pay for missing every time.
     
  7. China_hand_Joe

    China_hand_Joe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tszyu wasn't even a shadow of himself when he fought Hatton.

    His right had declined and his left was simply limp.
     
  8. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    You overrate Floyd and underrate Tszyu.

    Also what do you mean Tszyu would miss?
    Would he **** if he thought he was not going to hit Floyd and I do not mean clean I just mean atal.

    Koysta Tszyu had great timing, 10/10 p4p power in his right hand, was good at judging distance and was a great boxer. Just watch any fight where he had to box or him vs Forrest in the ams.

    Floyd would win if he didn't get caught. But you and ever Floyd fan is all hyped up after the Hatton fight. Nobody that stood off Tszyu did well and Floyd would have a very tough time with Koysta.

    Floyd close UD/SD.
     
  9. gr8fight

    gr8fight Active Member Full Member

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    exactly. Floyd cant stay in the pocket too much in this fight because zoo is great at judging the distance, and measuring his punches. Floyd has to rush kostya to beat him he CANT JUST RELY ON SPEED!
     
  10. PowerPuncher

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    What does Tyszu do better than Floyd? Power and if it doesn't land it doesn't matter

    Mayweather slips far faster punchers than Tyszu, bringer far more pressure than Tyszu, that have greater reach than Tyszu yet Tyszu will land cleanly? I don't see it

    Who's punches has Tyszu been able to avoid? Hatton, Mitchell, Judah, Phillips all rained any shot they wanted on Tyszu at will.

    Mayweather will be able to hit Tyszu with his eyes closed. Tyszu won't be able to hit Mayweather very often if at all. Mayweather wins TKO10
     
  11. 196osh

    196osh Mendes Bros. Full Member

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    To turn that around. What if it was Koysta that hit Floyd like Corley did? Floyd would be KTFO

    What if Koysta had hit him as much as any fighters that Floyd has faced. You fail to grasp what Floyd is like defensivly. He is not Pernell Whittaker who avoided shots all together. He takes shots at the point where they will do the least damage.

    Also Koysta has a much much much much better defense than Ricky Hatton and Hatton only started to get hit at will in the 6th. Floyd would be nuts to open up against Tszyu.

    But as I said I think Floyd would win. You are just disrgarding a great great boxer who matches up pretty well against Floyd.
     
  12. heidegger

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    If theres one thing I would bet my life on in boxing, its that PBF would not beat Tszyu by TKO.
     
  13. PowerPuncher

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    I think Tyszu is a very good boxer BUT he has his hands low, waits to counter, was flatfooted ALLOT, wide stance (meaning he needs time to adjust feet and will have problems inside)

    Style wise Tyszu is very similar to Gatti but far better. We all know thats a bad style to fight Mayweather with

    All this spell disaster against Mayweather

    People bring up the Corley fight allot. This was a rare event, if Judah/Hatton/Gatti had Mayweather caught like Corley did then maybe they would have caused problems BUT they never did. Mayweather regrouped and came back to beat Corley up in that round so he wasn't that badly hurt anyway

    You can get through Mayweathers defense but punches you think have landed, when you watch them in slowmo the next day you can see they never landed. For example the Hatton jab in round 1 that I thought wobbled Mayweather did not land at all
     
  14. Chief_Second

    Chief_Second Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd patterson was way too big for kostya
     
  15. thesandman

    thesandman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You haven't really watched a lot of Kostya have you? Or every fight you've watched him in, you've wanted him to lose.

    Judah was not all over Kostya. He had ONE good round, then got figured out and dispatched. The punch that flattened Judah was the second thrown exactly like that. Tszyu missed the exact same punch by a whisker about 2 seconds before.

    People talk about that fight like it was a ****ing Weaver v Tate thing, losing every second of a fight but for 1 punch. That's ridiculous. Kostya sat back and worked out a fast starter. Then KO'd him. Not really a struggle there.

    Turn it around then, how many good rounds did Judah have against the seemingly perfect Floyd? More than one, that's for sure.

    Kostya was an excellent boxer, who basically when he turned pro, turned to the thing that got the job done. His right hand. No point going to the judges if you can finish it before that.

    Watch him fight Tackie. Watch him fight Forrest in the ams.

    That's not a Gatti. That's a disgraceful comparison.


    BTW. You're basing your matchup on a prime Floyd against a 35 yr old Tszyu that fought Hatton.

    Put the version in that fought Zab, and it's a different fight.


    I would take Floyd by slim UD or SD. But he'd be on his toes for 36 minutes, otherwise he could be in big trouble.