Could Larry Holmes or Rocky Marciano beat Deontay Wilder?

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  1. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sonny,

    What are you, 5'7/130 max if I remember your pic from ESB years ago.

    Put your big boy pants on, have your significant other, if you have one, otherwise your mother will suffice, iron your gym shorts and pack you a lunch, hit the next Boxing Gym and pick a 6'5 plus fighter in there and do some sparring.....and then get back to me how height and reach dont matter.
     
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I have done work in the security sector.

    There are no weight classes there.
     
  3. PH1882

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    Prime Holmes batters the **** out of Wilder.
     
  4. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Modern revisionism?? Who in the world has propelled him to mythical heights? My deceased football coach’s son, who just turned 84 attended almost all of Marciano’s fights in Long Island and said Tunney, Jack Johnson, a prime Walcott, and a prime Holyfield would’ve beat Marciano.

    Also, size works both ways. Marciano struggled with a lot of sub 200lb guys, since they are harder to land on and guys like Walcott, Charles, and Moore are easily more experienced than anyone Wilder has faced. Even Joe Louis at his best had an extremely hard time with Conn and Louis was much better at putting his punches together than Wilder is. If Wilder and Joshua had to fight a bunch of experienced sub 200lb fighters that were mobile and very experienced their KO percentages would definitely be a lot lower.
     
  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Wilder absolutely gassed against Fury, and that fight had such a slow pace that I'm surprised they counted it as boxing.

    Triple that pace at minimum and Wilder would gas mid rounds. You think he's going 15 with Marciano's pace, body work and pressuring?
     
  6. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    I'm 6'1" 205lbs and spar with men 6'3" - 6'5" 220-240ish all the time. Your point?
     
  7. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sure you are....

    Dont be modest, let the cat out of the bag that Pro camps call you in all the time to spar and rough their fighters up.......whats you sparring record , 49-0 I reckon ?
     
  8. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Maybe, though you meant to say "hunched". But Sawhund ll said that he was 6' 7".
    I think he is at least just a bit under 6' 9".
     
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  9. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    I assume the guys you spar with don`t have Wilder`s power or reach!
     
  10. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did not look 2-3 inches taller than Wilder IMO, maybe 1 to 1 1/2, he is tall, make no mistake but IMO he is not 6'9.
     
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  11. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He already schooled Wilder in sparring, what are you talking about ?
     
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  12. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    I was just addressing his comment about Janitor, Wilder would kill me! I wouldn't wanna spar him lol, nor any of the HW champs for the next 2-3 years
     
  13. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Security, uh ? Totally relevant

    I feel safe now.
     
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  14. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. No way Is Fury 6’9”. I’ve met Wlder and he is around 6’5.5”, so I could believe Fury is around 6’7”. Ortiz is also another guy, who is over listed in my opinion, since he’s listed at 6’4”, but he was shorter than Malik Scott, who I used to see a lot because I know his trainer and Malik was 6’3” at the tallest. Jarrell Miller when he got interviewed by Everlast at least admitted that his real height was 6’2”.
     
  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Have you met any current fighters who you believe are their actual listed heights?