Could Larry Holmes realistically beat Ezzard Charles and Jersey Joe Walcott in the same night

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Back to back? I was watching Marciano /Charles on YouTube and someone in the comments section claimed that Holmes could beat Charles and Walcott on the same night back to back.

    I can't see it. Either one could take him the distance and either one could run him real close. Both would have live chances at an upset. Is this even plausible?
     
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  2. Grapefruit

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    Back to back no, but in the same night after a couple hours of rest yes
     
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  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Yeah but those could turn out to be hard fights
     
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  4. Grapefruit

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    Well maybe so, I always felt that Walcott and Charles had alot more skill than they had ability to follow it through, but they were good enough to give marciano alot of trouble after all. But I Can't help but seeing it look similar to when cassius clay fought Archie moore
     
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  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Moore was thirty years older than Clay and on his last leg. In fact Moore was born in 1913, Ali's mother was born in 1917 according to Wikipedia.

    Weaver at 202 lbs gave Holmes a tough fight. Will Walcott weighing 196 really make a difference as opposed to 202 pounds, especially when he was on another tier when it comes to skill in comparison to Weaver?
     
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  6. Birmingham

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    All three on their game, no. No doubt Holmes comfortably beats both on separate nights though
     
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  7. janitor

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    I think that it is exceedingly unlikely.

    Both would be hard fights, and it is not even a given that he would beat them both individually.

    He is nothing more than a favorite in either case.
     
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  8. Unforgiven

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    No.
     
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  9. janitor

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    This is exactly the sort of prediction that we should avoid making to be honest.

    What fighter has ever actually take on two world class opponents in the same night?

    Who has even attempted it?
     
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  10. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Absolutely not. Could he beat either of them on a single night is the question to me.
     
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  11. HerolGee

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    no. he would be a bloody mess at the end of the first, though more likely than not, victorious.

    facing the other would kill him.
     
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  12. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    My thoughts exactly. He'd have to win via blowouts for that to happen and while you could argue strongly to make Holmes a favorite, you could also argue strongly for a Walcott /Charles upset win. Which, BTW, would likely have better odds in Vegas than Douglas had vs Tyson
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Well George Foreman did fight the 5 guys in Toronto
     
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  14. The Morlocks

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    James J. Jeffries.
    He fought contender Bob Armstrong 10 rounds and next up and gloved up was contender Steve O'Donnell. Real fights. He was fighting O'Donnell after a 30 minute rest. Unfortunately, Jeff broke his hand in (his left, which was his killer) the 1st round of the Armstrong fight and after fighting and winning the decision wanted to fight Steve as scheduled. Doctor said no, Jeffries complained crowd who paid for two fights was greatly disappointed.
     
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  15. red cobra

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    Alternate thread title: Let's low rate and trash Ezzard Charles and Jersey Joe Walcott.
     
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