Could Leonard beat a prime Hagler?

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  1. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    I say no. Hagler was much faster and more accurate in his prime. It's obvious watching the fight that Hagler lost a lot of his speed from age. I just think he wasn't as sharp.

    Of course Leonard is going to be better himself, but I think hagler would win if he's in his prime.

    Today I watched it on DVD and I had hagler ahead 1 point. a prime hagler wouldve won it by a larger margin in my opinion.

    Also why didn't they have a rematch? It was a very close fight, and in my opinion kind of controversial that Leonard won.
     
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  2. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    hell no
     
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  3. Jorodz

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    no. prime hagler for me is caveman lee era. that hagler ****ing kills him in 6
     
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  4. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I don't care what Addie says, no. :twisted:
     
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  5. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiPhhzRJMSM&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/ame]

    Im talking about this hagler. This guy had perfect movement and a hell of a jab. I dont think Leonard could handle this hagler.
     
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  6. techks

    techks ATG list Killah! Full Member

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    Hagler is one of my fav boxers but with no bias I'll just say that Leonard wouldn't have beaten him. Leonard even admitted that Hagler was in a declining stage so he saw he could beat him.
     
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  7. Jersey Joe

    Jersey Joe Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Prime Hagler had one or two close fights against less men than Leonard. I would favour prime Hagler, since they are very close on skill and Marv has the size advantage, but such a great fighter as Leonard is always going to be in with a shout. Although if he tries to fight like in Duran I, he will get ****ing battered.
     
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  8. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    I think hagler eats him up in 8 rounds, honestly
     
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  9. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which Leonard are we talking about....the welterweight or Superwelter Leonard?

    Obviously MW Leonard is not as good as prime Hagler.
     
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  10. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Although hagler wasnt in his prime when they met, neither was leonard. Prime 4 Prime, i have to side with the Marvelous one, but he doesnt have it all his own way.
     
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  11. Jorodz

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    i want to agree but i just can't see how leonard, at any weight he came in at, is terribly competitive.

    before duranimal comes in and tears this thread a new *******, leonard never proved he could compete with bigger fighters. i never saw him beat someone who was physically that much stronger, hit that much harder and wouldn't blink at his shots
     
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  12. Dave's Top Ten

    Dave's Top Ten Active Member Full Member

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    No, but helluva fight while it lasted, which would massively overshadow the fight that eventually did take place. Previously I thought Leonard might last the distance, even in a 15 round fight, but now I think a Leonard, close to his peak, would be too adventurous for his own good and wouldn't fight quite as defensively as in the '87 fight. I see Hagler stopping him in a great one.
     
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  13. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Point taken. I just think that Leonard was an exceptional talent (as too was Marvin) and that in his prime would be capable of giving anyone an argument, within reason of course. I still take Hagler to win, just not as easily as some might think and SRR will have his moments.
     
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  14. Jorodz

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    :thumbsupi can agree with this
     
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  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Not only couldn't he beat him, I don't think he'd even finish on his feet...any times out of ten.
     
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