could lomachenko reach the same heights as pacquiao?

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  1. Anima

    Anima Kinetic Link Full Member

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    He has power just not enough for the higher weights.

    In the lower weights when Pac was hitting his foes you'd really see damage. That's why there are a ton of stoppages.

    Loma stops people differently.
     
  2. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No? Who said he had to go to 147?
     
  3. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Lomachenko doesn't throw a rangefinder jab against southpaws. The fact that you don't even know that hurts your credibility when talking about this match up in terms of talking about a head to head analysis.
    I just hope it happens, Lomachenko needs to be more open minded towards these match ups. Even if he knows it's a diminished win and doesn't mean much today, a lot of fans obviously still think Pac is a big scalp and is dangerous. Pac has an advantage against bigger guys like Thurman because they don't have the speed, skills and footwork of smaller fighters. People talk BS about Pac being on PEDs and that's why he did well against bigger guys, it's just that his style and attributes are perfect against bigger fighters. Even in his diminished state he still holds those advantages over bigger guys. Pac needs to stay away from guys like Lomachenko and Crawford, he's not on that level anymore.
    One of us here is definitely kidding ourselves.
     
  4. dealt_with

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    Yeah, Lomachenko has one punch power while Pac was always an overwhelming sort of puncher. His strange angles and speed caused him to catch guys unaware. Pac isn't really a hard puncher, a common opponent said Gamboa hit harder.
     
  5. Paranoid Android

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    Lomachenko would pump that jab against Pac as a feeble attempt to maintain some distance. Pedraza had Lomachenko looking like he was in a very bad accident.

    Look, I'm a massive Lomachenko fan, but he's not surviving Pac.

    Like you said, Lomachenko ducked Pac.
     
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  6. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    brutally handsome
     
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  7. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    nah, Lomachenko's biggest achievments were 2 Gold Medals.... he's been boxing since he was 5. he's tired... he even said himself that he wants to retire SOON. he won't fight until he's 40.
     
  8. dealt_with

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    Pedraza is a cagey, long orthodox fighter who is nothing like Pac. Lomachenko marks up easily, he looks like that in every fight.
    Again, look at Lomachenko against southpaws. That's not what he does with his jab.
    I seriously doubt you're a Lomachenko fan, because you don't seem to understand how he fights. It's either that or you're not understanding what's happening in a boxing match between different styles.
    If you had an argument for how Pac could beat Lomachenko I'd be open to it, but he's really not the style or the person to do it. We could say that Pac is too powerful but there's simply zero evidence for it when Lomachenko has never been hurt, is A+ in terms of defence and ring IQ, and Pac hasn't shown punching power in years. I'm not saying it's not possible but it's pure speculation, not based on any evidence.
    I think Lomachenko ducked Pac, but not for the reasons you think he did.
     
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  9. dealt_with

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    Exactly, Pac was fighting since he was a 16 year old malnourished kid, that's how he won so many titles in different divisions as he was growing up. Anotoly Lomachenko specifically waited until Vasyl was fully grown for him to turn pro. The two gold medals were the pinnacle of the sport, the pro game is just some mucking around and promotion for money. Loma at 135 is the equivalent of Pac at 147.
     
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  10. sparta

    sparta Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac has great skills, wtf u talking about? You don't do what pac has done with just physicality and no skill level. He is highly skilled, u need to look harder.
     
  11. dealt_with

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    He has good skills, not elite. I didn’t say he had no skills. Plenty of fighters achieve almost solely based on athletic gifts.
    I can look at Pac and see a lot of flaws. He’s lacking in a lot of ways, you need to look harder.
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol:
     
  13. Str8ryte

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  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    The world champs he has beaten were beter than the guys he beat to win his gold medals fighting three rounds in each bout.
     
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  15. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pro accomplishments trump amateur accolades all day everyday regardless of what garbage fantasy land fanboys spew out their gobs
     
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