Could Louis or Foreman KO Dominic Breazeale IN 1 Round

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Wilder's power always makes him dangerous
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know, especially against Lewis. I have feeling that it'd take a full blown Windmill combination flush, like what he did to Harrison to take out Foreman
     
  3. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes much higher.

    Those were all wins over the best potential opponent in the world!

    They are more akin to a scenario where Anthony Joshua blasted Wilder in the first round!
     
  4. Golden_Feather99

    Golden_Feather99 Active Member Full Member

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    So, the same as Buddy Baer, Abe Simon, or Primo Carnera? How long did it take Louis to KO these fighters? It sure wasn't a one punch KO in the very first round.
     
  5. BCS8

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    So another typical Wilder opponent, then.
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    They were legitimate contenders.

    Breazle was not!
     
  7. Ken Ashcroft

    Ken Ashcroft Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yet you would be surprised at the amount of posters on the General forum who prefight seemed genuinely serious that Breazeale would or could beat Wilder. But then judging by the level of vitriol that Wilder gets on that board, it was probably just wishful thinking on their parts.
     
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  8. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Probably. Breazeale left his left hand out there and Wilder countered it. That was a rather sloppy defensive mistake. Try to throw the hook and get countered over the left.
     
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  9. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's why I predicted him to be blown out inside 3,,as you say, he can't fight.
     
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  10. Rainer

    Rainer Active Member Full Member

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    Baer had a good chin which he kept down behind his huge shoulders,
    One round.
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  11. Golden_Feather99

    Golden_Feather99 Active Member Full Member

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    Ranked contenders, not legitimate contenders. Joe Louis was ranked #1 when he fought Marciano, doesn't make him a legitimate contender. I wasn't talking about their rankings though.

    "Breazeale had no reflexes, was bereft of head movement / upper body evasiveness, had little defense other than ineffectually holding his hands up, was standing bolt upright like a lighting rod, required a few rounds to warm his motor up, was lacking hand-speed, is not a heavy puncher, etc etc."

    That's what I responded to. "not a heavy puncher" is inaccurate, Breazeale can certainly punch. But doesn't this sum up fighters like Baer, Carnera, Simon. They were easy to hit and they were slow. Regardless of their rankings, they weren't good fighters at all. Buddy entered the rankings by beating Nathan Mann. Mann was 61 lbs lighter than Buddy. Carnera consistently beat small heavyweights. He even had a 53 lbs advantage when he fought Max Baer. Baer was a big heavyweight in his day. Simon did the same thing as Buddy. Beat heavyweights who were 50-60 lbs lighter. Breazeale can't do that, he has to fight big heavyweights. Being big isn't enough to stand out anymore. You have to be big and good. You don't think Breazeale could beat some of the lower ranked cruiserweights? He definitely could. But he didn't. Breazeale was actually ranked #8 in October 2018. He was dropped from rankings in November 2018 because he hadn't fought in 12 months (Ring Magazine policy). He was waiting on Wilder. He returned in December and won by a brutal knockout but wasn't placed back in the top 10.
     
  12. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Results have to count for something at the end of the day.

    You can't make a nobody into a somebody, just because he weighed as much as my auntie!

    A fighter who is not able to prove his mettle against legitimately world class opposition, is no great shakes, however impressive he looks visually, however strong the era!

    Breazle is nobody major today, and there is no reason to think that he would have been, in any other era!
     
  13. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    It all depends on Breazeale. If he goes out with the same disregard to their power like he did with Wilder then yes the same thing would most likely happen..
     
  14. Golden_Feather99

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    Agree to disagree. Size matters. Carnera was the undisputed heavyweight champion. He beat Sharkey, Loughran when he wasn't half the fighter they were. How did he do it? Size must have played a role because he definitely wasn't a skilled fighter.
     
  15. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It’s a sad truth that the only reason he was able to cash out for a second time, was because he showed he was quite clearly inept in comparison to the top of the division.
     
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