Could Manny Pacquiao of beaten any of these champions at Middleweight, 2011

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Which champions would Pacquiao of beaten in 2011

  1. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr (WBC)

  2. Dmitry Pirog ( WBO)

  3. Felix Sturm ( WBA)

  4. Daniel Geale(IBF)

  5. None

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Trapper of The Year Full Member

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    I think he could possibly beat geale.
     
  2. Dannymita

    Dannymita Member Full Member

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    I'd take manny over chavez and possibly geale... They'd have massive weight advantage over him but I'd fancy him to do the business.

    He smash the **** out of chavez even though he weighed about 15 stone more .. Pirog and sturm..... Pirog was skilled but no idea what his level was...

    Sturm was very very good and underated.... And his jab was fantastic .... He'd give manny all he could handle... No knock on manny he would be well outta his depth weight wise... Manny vs Sergio is probably a step too far also
     
  3. Badbot

    Badbot Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just look at the way Paul fought at 147. He did not use his reach at all.
    He was a brawler who often overreached. And his defense was the same few moves over and over.
     
  4. Badbot

    Badbot Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Geale was a solid boxer at his peak. His resume ise quite OK.
     
  5. Odins beard

    Odins beard Gordon’s alive!!! Full Member

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    Geale would be the weakest link imo, still not sure if he beats him though, unless he takes a lead out of Cotto’s book and drains the life out of him.

    Pirog brutally knocks him out.
     
  6. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Pac never beat a genuine title holder at 154, so I have a difficult time imagining he'd have done so at 160. There is a reason he never truly ventured to 154 - excluding the ridiculous "title fight" between him and Margo, which didn't take place at 154 in any case.
     
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  7. Henry Hank

    Henry Hank New Member Full Member

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    Chavez Jr only has size and chin Pac would make him look like the bum he is.

    Sturm threw punches as if they cost him money i think Pac would outwork his lazy ass.

    Geale was decent at best but he has nothing that could bother Pac.

    Pirog would beat him.
     
  8. Serge

    Serge Gothic Gypsy Gangster Staff Member

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    He'd definitely spark out the 160 version of Roy that much I do know.
     
  9. bailey

    bailey Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Im not sure
    I think the natural size difference could be too much.
    I am assuming that there is no rehydration clause of course
     
  10. Jackman65

    Jackman65 Member Full Member

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    I hate these types of threads. They have weight classes for a reason. Manny is an ATG but it’s not fair or realistic to expect him to beat MWs. He’s much too small and giving up 30lbs is insane. Heavyweights are a different story. Manny is already giving up size at WW, MW is a much different ballgame. Why don’t people want to see guys fight guys who are relatively close in size? It’s bad enough with the crazy hydration that goes on these days.
    These fights are rarely entertaining. Did anyone see Mikey-Spence and think it was a good fight?

    I wish they had same day weigh-ins and max hydration limits for all weights. Let’s see who is the best fighter at his real weight, not who can game the system best.
     
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  11. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    No way ?? Pac sparks out Roy jones at 160?
     
  12. Serge

    Serge Gothic Gypsy Gangster Staff Member

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    A million percent
     
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  13. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Youre crazy ! The Sergio Cotto beat was a shell of his former self. Coming off of a long layoff and two bad knees. He should never have stepped in the ring that night against anyone. He got dropped by a jab because his knee completely buckled. The Sergio that stepped in the ring against Chavez Jr ABSOLUTELY DESTROYS and KNOCKS OUT COTTO.
     
  14. Malph

    Malph Active Member Full Member

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    Sorry but if strict drug testing were in force he doesnt beat any of them. He is not naturally that big and would have a hard time with the natural power of real middleweights. Without any unnatural remedies, its doubtful he could hurt natural middleweights either.

    Manny is great but he is human. There was so much money and fans wrapped up around Manny that he was given some....consideration.
     
  15. RingKing75

    RingKing75 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree on PW. That dude shouldve absolutely dominated and cleaned out WW/JrMw with his physical ability and talent but his boxing iq was sorely lacking. May have been an issue of being so talented that he felt he didn't have to sharpen his knowledge/skills because he could get by on his gifts. I dont think he gets talked about enough as being one of the biggest wastes of talents. Sure he didnt throw his life away being an idiot like Broner or become a junkie but he never really reached his potential. Unfortunately he never got the chance after his accident. Imho it shouldve been PW, Manny and FlIVd as the big 3 of the era all fighting each other in their primes. Well, at least Manny and PW fighting each other as FlIVd would not set foot in the ring with either in their primes.
     
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