Could Manny retire without facing an African American?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by LeadRightHand, May 25, 2010.


  1. jomiyo

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  2. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No facts. We have different opinions. Name the hall of future hall of famers that Manny has beaten? Two of them he has faced have resulted in Manny leaving the ring without another W. How many title defenses has he had? Mayweather would not have lost to a single opponent Manny has faced.

    As for the value of your opinion, anyone paying attention around here would not put much weight behind it.
     
  3. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    History will look favorably on Manny's ring accomplishments with or without African American fighters based on the fighters he's faced and beat whom many were better and more accomplished than bradley, berto, Alexander or PW.....Floyd is in a different class alongside Floyd is Manny...anther very special fighter.
     
  4. herbzg

    herbzg Euro-Level Athlete Full Member

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    not many africna americans in the midget divisions below jww . but he could now that he is a welterweight, he could face shane mosley, who freddie roach belives is "too good", he could face floyd but is scared to take the drug tests, he could fight paul. all three of which would probably beat him so he is better off retiring without fighting one. .
     
  5. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's a lot...lets start with MAB, EM, DLH, Hatton, JMM, Cotto just to name the big names.

    So b/c Manny faced fighters who have either lost or have done poorly after facing him that should be looked at unfavorably?

    When Floyd beats someone and they still fight on and loose they say Floyd ruined them...even though when manny faced the same opponent he destroys them...yet Floyd is the one who gets credit for ruining fighters by outclassing them in most cases and not really laying down a beating like Manny does.

    You say Floyd would not have lost to a single opponent Manny has faced and the same can be said about Floyd list of opponents...Manny wouldn't have lost to anyone Floyd has on his resume.

    And your "opinion" regarding OTHERS "opinion" about me and my "opinions":lol:....is laughable. B/c that's jsut your "opinion".:rofl You don't have to agree with me....I sure as hell can't lower myself to your level to agree with or understand yours... So to each their own.:good I enjoy being above that.
     
  6. kartog

    kartog Agent Smith Full Member

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    "Mayweather would not have lost to a single opponent Manny has faced"

    This is like living in a virtual world, isn't it?

    But Floyd never faced Cotto, or Clottey did he?

    If odds and arm-chair analysis are 100% accurate predictors of these fights, I guess boxing would have been out of business before it even got off the ground when people started flocking to bare-knuckle face-offs and betting their money on who they thought would win.

    But the people who give Floyd a pass, by saying he would win anyway against certain opponents so he could afford not to face them in the ring, are trying to actually put the carriage before the horse in a crazy topsy-turvy kind of logic. Boxing history is littered with upsets and surprising performances that it is not even worth discussing with these types the folly of their bent reasoning.

    Why even bother?
     
  7. zorryt

    zorryt Active Member Full Member

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    Most African American boxers use performance enhanced drugs so why to fight one? He beat a bunch of black fighters and he will beat Roidsmayweather the best of them all.
     
  8. LeadRightHand

    LeadRightHand New Member Full Member

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    I don't buy that Pacquioa is that much better than Berto,Bradley or Alexander....O.K. yes I do.:yepBut the real point is fight a different group of people already.I am looking forward to seeing Mayweather get his first loss and Pacquiao getting his next loss.Most likely whoever beats Pacquiao or Mayweather will either not be as good as they are or will never put together the career that they have.Muhammad Ali lost to several fighters who were not as good as him,so did Sugar Ray Robinson,And they both promptly rematched and beat the brakes off of the insane men who would dare defeat them in public for all to see.

    I only want to see Pac fight a different group of people with a different skill set.If he loses to one of these opponents he'll rematch and avenge because he is better.But will those different stlyes give him issues?I would love to know.He has destroyed the Mexican style of fighting.If he can destroy the African-American style(s) of fighting then let him walk off into the sunset with their flesh in between his knuckles.

    For those who got caught up in race,you have exposed yourselves,it's everything to do with culture,whether it is going to Brazil to train or Rocky goin' to da hood with Apollo to work on his movement.There are clearly a bunch of Paulies on this site who don't want to go to that gym!
     
  9. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The working boxing writers are a collection drunks, senile racists, and fourth rate writers with day jobs. The consensus opinion and 75cents will get you a cup of coffee. Floyd is underrated, so many people hate him they will not ackowledge his accomplishments. Pac is overrated. They both have great resumes. Order will be restored when Floyd dominates Pac so completely they don't look like they belong in the same ring together.
     
  10. hellblazer

    hellblazer All-Time Greatâ„¢ Full Member

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    he never faced an italian fighter.
     
  11. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Corrales, Judah, and Mosley would have whipped his ass. Just my opinion of course.
     
  12. boxer1025

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    I think pac would beat alexander and bradley! Pbf-pac is a close one.... I mean pac just fights the best, He doesnt even think about race!!
     
  13. Stonehanded

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    What we DON'T need are people like you who like to construct long winded paragraphs of garbage that does not have substance. Like a previous poster here said, Pac was fighting in a division where the majority of his opponents were Latino, hence his nick-name 'The Mexi-cutioner'. Now gtfo because you reek of troll.

    P.s here's some melanin for you -

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    Guess that extra thickness didn't help hu? idiot...
     
  14. crimson

    crimson Boxing Addict banned

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    Who do you expect for others to follow - random ESB posters or individuals who put their credibility publicly with every piece they write?
    No offense but "collection drunks, senile racists, and fourth rate writers with no day jobs. " easily describe many ESB posters (but I don't drink).

    It is also ironic because 99% of the time, when people spout ATGs, P4P, etc they will reference these racist drunks.
     
  15. Stonehanded

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    OMG, stop it please.