Could Marciani carry Holmes jock strap? Holmes vs Marciano

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Talk about people in glass houses throwing stones!

    You accuse Marciano of fighting "unqualified" opposition.

    Why don't we compare the rankings of Marciano's title challengers, to the rankings of Holmes's title challengers.

    I guarantee that such a comparison would not be very flattering to Holmes.

    If you are going to bash Marciano's opposition, and his results against them, it is only fair to point out the rot in Holmes's resume.

    Marciano's challengers were basically the most qualified available, they were beaten conclusively, and given rematches when it was warranted.

    Holmes's challengers were not the most qualified available for the most part, were occasionally beaten by controversial decision, and were never given rematches when it was warranted.
     
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  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I would throw the same charge at his critics to be honest.

    A lot of people cant get over the fact that the only undefeated heavyweight champion, was a 190lb white pressure fighter.

    A lot of people don't like this fact, and for others he simply doesn't match their concept of what a great fighter should look like.
     
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  3. BCS8

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    This.

    But to be fair, Rocky doesn't match my concept of what a great fighter should look like either.

    I'm thinking more like ... a Eubank Jr type body. ;)
     
  4. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    Interesting that Ali didnt share Holmes disregard for Marciano`s ability. "He`s better than Joe Frazier" Ali wasnt shy about blasting some of the other old champions black or white.
     
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  5. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    :lol:
     
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  6. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I’m almost convinced that the anti-white sentiment is attached to Marcianos legacy as strongly, if not stronger than the pro-white sentiments.

    Any person who operates in the tropes of race when analyzing Rocky as a fighter is an idiot neanderthal.
     
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  7. Mr.DagoWop

    Mr.DagoWop Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I personally rate Marciano as the number 1 heavyweight of all time specifically because he was a practicing Roman Catholic.
     
  8. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    They say that the only people obsessed with food, are the morbidly obese and anorexics!
     
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  9. JackSilver

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    Why was he only practicing? You either do it for real or don’t do it at all.

    That puts him down as a heavyweight champion in my estimations.
     
  10. mcvey

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    You are more than entitled to your opinion R.
    I'm just wondering what would be the motive for posters who are Caucasian, knocking Marciano on white racial grounds?
     
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  11. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I rate anyone whose username is" DAGO WOP "as highly suspect!
     
  12. HerolGee

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    Rocky was outstanding. Sure he'd not eat the greatest ATGs, but against numbers 6-10 hes got a fair chance or better.

    eat not beat. Confused him with Dustin NIchols for mo.
     
  13. Mr.DagoWop

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    I rate anyone who is 70 years old but acts like a 12 year old as a troll!
     
  14. BlackCloud

    BlackCloud I detest the daily heavyweight threads Full Member

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    Exactly, i myself am caucasian, despite my username.
     
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  15. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    I think most of those people have good intentions
    But tie Marciano to the "Great White Hope" tropes due to unsophisticated pattern recognition. They come from the "Coming to America" and "White Men Can't Jump" era.
     
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