Could Marciano Have Kod Holyfield circ 2000?

I don't think so at all, Holyfield picks up where Ezzard left off and the Rock gets TKOd in 7

 

That's the point, are you dense or what? You can't say that just because the past prime fighter was competitive against all-timer, it means that he'd dominate the weaker fighter. Old Evander went distance twice against Lennox and he got stopped by light hitting Toney.

Since when the physics is "art of numbers and values"?

 

Absolutely. The Rock never played it safe for a second, committing everything he has, all the time. A style of necessity. Plus he hit harder than Lennox did, one punch power-wise.

On the other note, I think Lennox could have gotten Holyfield out of there if he put his mind to it, though he would have been risking himself more than he liked to later on in his career. Not taking anything away from Holyfield or Lennox, both were warriors.

 

Ezzard left off on the canvas

 

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God I´m so tired of trimming these trash posts of you
What of "circ 2000" and "

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Do the math fo you again?
Ok.

2000 - 13 Nov 1999 (2nd LL fight) = 47 days difference
2000 - 4 Oct 2003 (Toney) = Three years and 280 days difference

So, whats closer to Millennium, two fights in 1999 or the end of 2003 ?
Need another equation to rearrange these values of yours?
Fine.

These three years and 280 days + 47 days (LL 2 to Toney = about 4 years)
equals
the same distance as Ali beating Foreman to Leon Spinks 1 and 15 rounds of Norton 3 to a walking corpse of Holmes. And that was an even younger fighter. So much for a boxer of 37 years of age and a 4 years difference !

See you next time at some shittiest arguments @BF24.

 

Ezzard almost beat him twice while he was extremely old. Can't see why stopping a shot light-heavyweight is some point of pride.

 

Waiting for Chok with some "but that Ezzard Charles against Evander Holyfield"

 

Second fight was lucky to cut him on his nose but was getting his butt handed to him. First fight was competitive but wasn’t split or anything. Rocky was the clear winner. That and ezz and holy aren’t similar really in fighting. Just a bad comparison imo

 

Were all of the people who cut Rocky lucky, or was he just susceptible to cuts? And Charles happened to cut him bad enough to the point where the fight was almost stopped. Not to mention, that while some of cuts were from elbows, others were from punches. And as for the first fight, I'd say that a 8-7 decision is quite close to losing. Especially given that Charles was an old, shopworn light heavyweight who had been brutally KOd about four years earlier. Also, there were writers at the time who felt Charles won, as well as most who felt a unanimous decision was flattering for Rocky. Combined that Marciano had to essentially had to wait for the older fighter to gas out before he could get anywhere with Charles, and even when Charles was hopelessly gassed out he couldn't stop him. He could only stop an even worse one, and he still almost lost.

I don't think this has any bearing with Holyfield either. I just don't think it's a point where you can write off the trouble Marciano had with a simple "Charles left off on a stretcher" or whatever you said. It's not a series to boast about, given the state Charles was in. If he's younger, he wins.

 

Let’s not act as if Charles was ancient. He was 32 for Christ sake. Would be an infant today. Marciano would cut occasionally but never where a fight was stopped and only one other time where writers said it was close to being stopped. It’s a myth around here that he gets stopped off of cuts every other fight he’s put into. It never happened. Anyhow the fight is there for all to see on film. No serious individual that I know thought for a minute Charles won. Wasn’t a blow out was very competitive but it was a clear unanimous decision. What more could be said? May I add Marciano was out of prime for those fights as well.
I only stated the obvious that Charles fights “left off” with him on the canvas...not much to argue there.

 

I can use Ruiz fights then, in both Evander looked bad.

 

He had had 100+ fights, had been a pro for 14 years against some of the roughest competition ever, had never recovered from being KOed three years earlier, and was fighting well above his best weight. He'd never win another high level fight again. In boxing terms, he absolutely was anicent. Saying anything otherwise is simply untrue.

Throw him in with Charles from 6 years earlier, and he loses.

I never said that Charles should have won, I said that some writers thought he did. And only half of the fight exists. I'll take the word of those who actually saw the whole thing and said it was close. And Charles was far from popular when Rocky was a hero, so there's no bias towards Charles, overrating his performance.

Yes, an old Charles almost won. Exactly what I said.

LMAO. How on earth was Marciano past prime? He only started to slack in his training after Charles II. He had a SIX MONTH camp for the first fight.

Yeah, not in the first fight he didn't. The one where Charles was closer to his prime. And like I said, he still nearly won the one where he was left on the canvas.