Could McCallum have beaten Hagler?

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    No way is Hagler stopping McCallum at that point in his career, or at any in my opinion.

    We're talking about a guy that went 12 with Roy Jones at LHW when he was 40 years old, despite losing 107-120 on ALL three judges cards.
     
  2. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The Hagler who fought Mugabi would lose to the Body Snatcher via decision. Marvin's decline was hastened by the Hearns bombs he absorbed.
     
  3. jc

    jc Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    hagler late in his career gronds out a decision imo, noth great boxing minds and big hitters, Hagler had slipped a bit come the Mugabi fight, but would have enough to grind out a win over 12/15 rounds.
     
  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    A Prime McCallum against a Past Prime Hagler without his legs. McCallum is the better technician and smarter than Marv, hes moving better, outworking and outhustling the older Hagler. Honestly didnt Saturday night remind anyone about the difference between a great prime fighter and a great past prime fighter?

    McCallum 8-4 or 7-5 UD, second thoughts maybe they rob McCallum with a Leonard Superfight round the corner
     
  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I personally wouldn't put money on McCallum beating Hagler, but I also wouldn't hurt myself too badly by betting on Marvin either. McCallum was arguably the best defensive fighter of his era, along with utilizing body punching more effectively than anyone as well. His chin is every bit as durable as anybodies. I wouldn't be surprised to see McCallum squeak out a decision over one or any of the fabulous four. But, you'd have to make him an underdog against all of them.
     
  6. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Hagler had indeed faded in 86, past-prime but still highly-motivated (which is the key here) McCallum wasn't ready for Marv at 160 at this time. Yes, Mike did have the defence to make it awkward but he wouldn't score enough to win this contest- Hagler UD.
     
  7. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    Even against an inspired Duran that fought Moore i still wonder if i'd make McCallum a narrow fave. Mike was nothing like Moore or Barkley and would not lead so much which Duran likes. He's well schooled, durable and smart. I think his physical advantages at 154 would make him a slim fave.
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    McCallum would have stood a great chance against Hagler in 1986.

    I think he beats Thomas Hearns.
     
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    He might have defeated a declining Duran, or perhaps even an unsuspecting Hearns ( like the one who was KO'd by Barkley ). I'm not sure that I'd favor him to beat those men, but I concur that his chances are better than average..
     
  10. natonic

    natonic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd favor the '86 Hagler over McCallum slightly. I think McCallum beat a lot of guys because he was very solid technically and he outlasted guys on attrition. He didn't have an outstanding feature that was going to greatly trouble Hagler, unless you can foresee somebody wearing down and stopping Hagler with a sustained body attack (I can't). I'll take '86 Hagler by close decision. '87 Hagler vs McCallum I think is an absolute tossup.
    80 - 83 Hagler vs McCallum and it's a wide unanimous decision for Hagler.
     
  11. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    No.
     
  12. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    i would favour hagler to win by a desicion as he seems to be a bit more rounded although he was abit slower towards the end of his career

    even though he slowed hagler still had
    rounded skills
    brilliant chin
    excellent stamina
    brilliant footwork

    but i think hagler might of decided to take mccallum into the trenches get him to trade awake that sense of jamacin pride and trade with hagler in ring center get in a war of attrition that would suit hagler
     
  13. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I doubt it but it could have been a great fight ... Hagler had an iron chin but no one likes body shots ...
     
  14. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I respect Mccallum but he is getting overrated.A shot Donald Curry almost put him down and was easily outboxing Mccallum.

    Kalambay boxed his ears off.I think it would have been a good bout but HAGLER WOULD TAKE IT.

    As far as being avoided thats Mike trying to put the blame on someone else other then himself.He foolishly out priced himself out of a number of bouts-word was dealing with Mccallum was a NIGHTMARE-Had his shot on HBO and allowed a WAY overmatched Sean Mannion to go the distance.I still can't believe Mccallum didn't finish off Mannion!That performance turned off alot of fans at the time.
     
  15. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Curry wasn't shot for McCallum, clearly not.