Could Michael Moorer Have Beaten Max Baer?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Fergy, Apr 11, 2020.


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  1. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe not great from a historical perspective but watch film of Schulz, Jirov, etc. and you will see very solid fighters. Sorry man, but just because a guy was great in one era does not mean he would be great in another. I have watched Baer plenty of times and don't see anything that special other than a hard right hand landing against guys that don't show much defense.
     
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  2. GoldenHulk

    GoldenHulk Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I like Moorer even an ancient Foreman was miles better than a prime Baer.
     
  3. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I just don't get the Max Baer love at all. You drop him into the 60's, 70's or 90's heavyweight divisions and he is not going to be very successful at all. Instead of believing what you read about him, watch some YouTube videos of him. He was good in his era but not even close to being anything truly special.
     
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  4. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The likes of Lou Savarese was able to hold his own with the Foreman that beat Moorer. Is Lou Savarese miles better than Max Baer?
     
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  5. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why not? We have multiple examples of fighters from these eras losing to fighters from earlier eras.

    Like Cleveland Williams getting knocked out by Bob Satterfield.

    Is it your opinion that Max Baer couldn't crack the top 10 in the 1950s despte Rex Layne doing so?
     
  6. AwardedSteak863

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    I don't know but a 12w and 13 loss Willie Davis was. He beat Baer about a year after he lost to Louis. Foreman fought Saverese in his second to last fight. If you want to cherry pick performances go right ahead. Baer has some real stinkers in his record. Again, I'm not bashing Baer. He was good in his era.
     
  7. AwardedSteak863

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    Did I mention the 50's? I said the 60's 70's and 90's. Look, neither of us are going to convince the other so why do we just agree to disagree and move on. I based my opinion on watching both fighters and I think MM is a way more versatile fighter after doing so. If you can watch film of both and still come to the conclusion that Baer is more talented then I don't know what else there is to talk about.
     
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  8. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I would have more faith in Moorer winning had he fought more top guys.

    Botha, Schultz, Cooper, etc lost whenever they tried stepping up in class.
     
  9. Thor Odinson

    Thor Odinson “U should have been banned for life”-some fangirl banned Full Member

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    If Baer connects the right hand it’s over
     
  10. JohnThomas1

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    I really don't think so.
     
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  11. CharlesBurley

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    He wasn't though. 250lb Foreman hit way way harder than a 210lb Baer. Baer doesn't have the same concussive 1 punch power as Tua or Foreman

    Moorer would be the second best offensive force Baer ever faced
     
  12. 70sFan865

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    Depends on what you mean by that, but give me Schmeling over him. Then Max faced a lot of good contenders throught his career, Moorer wouldn't be something unseen for him.
     
  13. 70sFan865

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    So 250 lbs Foreman punched harder than 220 lbs Foreman?
    Did 220 lbs Baer punched hard enough?
     
  14. CharlesBurley

    CharlesBurley Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I think Foreman hit at least as hard in his comeback. Powers the last thing you lose and Foreman came in heavy on purpose. In order to push his opponents around and have more weight behind his punches

    Baer was 200-205 in his prime. Baer hit hard but not Foreman hard
     
  15. 70sFan865

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    Baer weighed:
    223 lbs against Pat Comiskey
    221.5 lbs against Tony Galento
    220.75 lbs against Lou Nova

    Did he punch harder then than in his prime?