Could Mike Tyson really beat Joe Frazier?

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  1. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Surprise surprise, a fighter picks the fighter who he took the distance to win in a fantasy fight....
     
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  2. Ragamuffin

    Ragamuffin Active Member Full Member

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    There was something very similar in Boxing Illustrated too. Still got all the old mags in boxes down the shed!
    Boxfan, did you read my earlier post No39.
    I know people all age differently, and top flight boxers certainly so depending on their earlier careers, but when Joe Frazier fought for the last time in 1981 against a large, strong lumbering Cummings, I felt so sorry for Joe at taking this fight, he was a shadow of his former self writ large, and yet he must have only been 36 or 37 years old at the time. I watched this fight on TV when it happened and felt sad watching him struggle with this other guy. I firmly believe only Joe's name got him a draw.
     
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  3. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tyson was bigger, faster and hit harder than Holyfield , yet was staggering round like an old drunk come the 10th round.
     
    Wass1985, Aug 18, 2015
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  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah and at that age Tyson was getting KTFO by Williams and quitting against McBride.
     
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  5. BoxerFan89

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    I read your post just now; interesting points.

    And yeah, I didn't like Old Frazier getting beat, but I feel that's the same with Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson when they were all past their primes.
     
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  6. uncletermite

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    So going to war and struggling against a guy who was a light puncher"ALI ADMITS THAT" that gives Frazier the edge over Tyson who walked through hell against a 6'3 240 pound Murderous puncher Razor Ruddock as example?So lets say Tyson gets knocked down 2/3 times and comebacks to win in that fight as example it proves Tysons worth because he was beat up first?:patsch



    Your entire thread is full of your own points is actually more proof Tyson blasts Frazier out,you haven't figured that out yet.:roll:



    I know I said I was leaving this one but its filled with such nonsense I couldn't help myself!:lol:
     
    uncletermite, Aug 18, 2015
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  7. Ragamuffin

    Ragamuffin Active Member Full Member

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    That's right, usually driven by money or ego or both.
     
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  8. BoxerFan89

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    LOL you are trying to lecture me on nonsense despite the fact that you tried to tell me Wladimir Klitschko is as fast as Muhammad Ali. Get out kid.
     
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  9. BoxerFan89

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    Usually both. In the case of Tyson and Frazier, it was money. In the case of Ali, it was both - but a few years later Ali made millions from merchandising so he's rich, but I suppose it doesn't matter now considering his current health.

    It's interesting to see which fighters are rich now and which went broke. Larry Holmes fought for a long time yet he's still quite wealthy.
     
    BoxerFan89, Aug 18, 2015
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  10. Ragamuffin

    Ragamuffin Active Member Full Member

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    Along with George Foreman..........
     
    Ragamuffin, Aug 18, 2015
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  11. BoxerFan89

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    Foreman needed money to fund his boxing gym I believe, but he wasn't broke like Frazier. After his comeback he became a multi-millionaire.
     
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  12. Berlenbach

    Berlenbach Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joe is one of my faves, but Tyson is a horrible style match for him. A quick fisted puncher who was most dangerous in the early rounds against a smaller swarmer who was always vulnerable in the early rounds and wasn't hard to find. Tyson by KO within 4.
     
    Berlenbach, Aug 18, 2015
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  13. Rock0052

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    This is a terrible style matchup for Joe, who took time to warm up and get into his rhythm...a fast starting Tyson takes him out within 5 IMO.
     
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  14. mcvey

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    Holyfield is not Frazier.
     
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  15. Hookandjab

    Hookandjab Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bonavena did almost stop Frazier in 2 because the 3 knockdown rule was in effect. Take your blinders off.
     
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