Could Miranda-Andrade be the biggest brawl in history @ 168??

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by RealIzm, Jan 12, 2008.


  1. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

    6,614
    0
    Jun 6, 2007
    I've gotta disagree that Andrade beats Pavlik. To be honest Andrade does not impress me AT ALL. His chin is iron; I will give you that but he has no skill at all. He doesn't plant his feet when he punches and looks ridiculously awkward (while having **** defense). Pavlik isn't a perfect boxer either but he still has double the skill and "boxing" capability that Andrade has. Like I said earlier, I think Miranda can outbox the guy for christs sake. Maybe im underrating him but from what ive seen he has a chin and some power (when he plants his damn feet) but his skill level I would rate at a D
     
  2. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

    12,558
    6
    Aug 8, 2007
    I am in contact with Wayne McCullough who was his chief second for the Kessler fight and seems to me that the Pocket Rocket is very dissatisfied with Librado in many aspects - one of them being that he punches like he is under water, completely predictable and has no defense at all when he seems to feint to come in. Pavlik and Andrade don't belong to the same world and I am pretty sure that Andrade could not evade Miranda's telegraphed punches. One of those Pantera right hands and the fight would be all over and so would be this story about his unbreakable chin.
     
  3. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

    7,114
    4
    Jan 8, 2007
    andrade has the tools needed to beat miranda pressure, chin and toughness. but i dont see why a scenario where miranda KO'ing andrade could'nt play out. he probably hits harder shot for shot than kessler, though kessler has a system to deliver his shots 100x better. if a guy like mack could put andrade on the canvas, miranda could probably do the same.
     
  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

    34,525
    7
    Mar 10, 2007
    Mack downed Andrade, but again, please remember that it was a flush on the chin...Andrade had no trouble getting up and was certainly in no danger of getting stopped. No way would Miranda stop him either; at best he might get lucky and KD Andrade, like Mack did.

    Andrade will fight Bute in summer, and no, Bute won't stop him either.

    Only person that might stop him is Froch, but I doubt that too.
     
  5. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

    7,114
    4
    Jan 8, 2007
    fair enough

    who is in our avatar btw?
     
  6. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

    34,525
    7
    Mar 10, 2007
    Michelle!:yep
     
  7. med

    med Member Full Member

    312
    0
    Dec 1, 2007
    I can see Miranda being the first to stop Andrade as he is there to be hit all night.
     
  8. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

    12,032
    2
    Oct 12, 2007
    I agree:good
     
  9. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

    12,032
    2
    Oct 12, 2007
  10. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,119
    0
    Nov 4, 2007
    As long as Miranda would hold up, it could be quite interesting !
     
  11. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

    12,032
    2
    Oct 12, 2007
    We could also say "As long as Andrade would hold up". Just how many right hands of Miranda can Andrade take?? He'll be open for them all nite long....on that note I would dare to say that Miranda has the better defense of the two
     
  12. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,119
    0
    Nov 4, 2007
    Possibly right...but I'm also concerned about Miranda's energy level if the rounds pile up because Andrade only knows one way to fight and its forward for 12 rounds if needed ! Weight drained or not....the last time someone fought like that with Miranda pushing him back, it was Pavlik and we saw what happened...
     
  13. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

    12,032
    2
    Oct 12, 2007
    Andrade is hardly the SKILLED fighter that Pavlik is...one big difference is the jab...Andrade doesnt have one....nor does he have the level of defense or ability to avoid punches.....Andrade and Miranda epitomize the whole one-dimensional puncher label........It would be a Vazquez-Marquez type war minus the jab:good
     
  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

    34,525
    7
    Mar 10, 2007
    I think Bika v.Miranda would be a bigger brawl and better fight.
     
  15. Nalian

    Nalian Formerly "yesihavearm" Full Member

    728
    0
    Feb 1, 2008
    Nope.


    Biggest brawl at SMW was probably Calzaghe vs Brewer, and THAT was a brawl!