Could Muhammad Ali ever have beaten Henry Cooper in a true way?

Ali denied giving cooper a 3rd match so we can safely assume he could never beat him in a true way.

 

Cooper knocked Ali senseless in the first fight but he lost the second fight fairly.

 

how many of these threads are around?

 

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Cooper EVT Ali is one of the most under-looked EVT wins in the history of the sport. The second Ali-Cooper fight was a much less dramatic EVT win, but an EVT win nevertheless. I think, most definitely in the first fight that Cooper proved what Joe Frazier showed that any good left hooker could truly beat Ali in a fair "true" contest. Keywords are "fair" and "true" that's why Cooper was the EVT winner of those fights. It's quite simple. Ali was open to the left hook and Cooper was a dynamite left hooker. The only reason Patterson failed in his match with Ali is because of a bad back (Another Ali EVT loss). The rematch was fruitless because Patterson was shot.

Ali nearly had to cheat his way with the torn glove bit to beat Cooper in their first meeting officially. We know, with all the dignity and honor established in EVT winning in boxing that Ali couldn't cheat Cooper out of his well deserved EVT. All the pre-antics wouldn't suffice an EVT win. Cooper was cut, Cooper took punches to his face fiercely despite such cuts, and Cooper dropped the butterfly. He shut the Louisville Lip up with one of the fiercest left hooks that shook up Ali's ancestors. It's non-negotiable, non-debatable. A clear cut EVT win. Enry' proved his status as a legend.

Terrific thread. I'd say if it wasn't for the cuts that Cooper would've won. And I think Ali knew this, that's why he resorted to such cheap tactics of punching Henry in the face so much that he would bleed a terrible bleed. We will never know for sure, unfortunately. And it's shame, we only really have Ali to blame for it.

 

Brilliant Don. :deal :good :happy

 

I wonder whether he could have emulated Uber Bacilieri, the great Italian heavyweight that somehow -- miraculously -- managed to TKO the great Henry Cooper in the fifth round of their 1955 fight.

Could Ali have summoned something of Bacillieri's magic on that eve? We'll never know. But we know one thing. Muhammad Ali is no Uber Bacillieri. Now way, no how.

 

Not in the interview I saw. Dundee said he showed the officials how the glove was split, but denied trying to buy time with it. You can believe it or not. But I don't believe Dundee would ever admit buying time for Ali. He said Ali didn't need any time.

 

i dont know cooper gave ali two tough fights without the cuts its hard to say

just like the first quarry fight i guess

well i imagine ali would prevail

 

:deal

 

Yes that would make boxing so much better after over a hundred years of queenburys rules .
the great all knowing SHAUNSTER101 has declared that boxers are no longer allowed to puch each other in the face for fear of (heaven forbid) cuttting the other boxer.
You are a ****ing ****** and should be punched in the face instead.:hi::rasta:****:boxxarty

 

Erm...have you watched the fight?

 

I understand if this is a trolling thread by shaunster101 but i think he's actually seriuos this time