Could Nino Valdes Make A Splash Today?

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  1. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Valdes seemed to under achieve in his own era,would he be anymore successful today fighting in the heavyweight division?
     
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  2. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I reckon he'd be a Ruddock /Shavers type contender, dangerous but never to Crack the top guys.
     
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  3. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Probably. We have guys like Spizkla and Brezeale and Martin.
     
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  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Not likely, he lacks fire on film. In his day he had a size advantage. Today he would be small.
     
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  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    No, he was pretty bad and benefitted greatly from the size disparity.

    A sloppy 6'3' 215 would go nowhere today. He'd be better off draining to cruiser if possible.
     
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  6. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    He was a serious puncher but got sloppy, tired out, etc .. just rewatched his ko of Jackson, colorized by D. Brown, and even in this win he looked so flawed ..

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  7. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Half the damn division is sloppy 6'3 215ers

    Except they're also hog-fat at 235-240
     
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  8. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, doubt it.
     
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  9. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    With better training sure. And management
     
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  10. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course he would be far more successful today. He was side-stepped back in his day by both Marciano and Patterson (one could debate this but its fairly apparent), but today there are 4 belts floating around. Even the corrupt organizations of today couldn't lock him out with all those champions looking for work. I'm sure he could pick up a strap against this level of competition. But possibly one other reason he was side-stepped in his day was due to manager Bobby Gleason. Everything I've read on him sort of reminds me of him being the Norman Stone of his day. Maybe he caused a lot of Nino's woes.
     
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