Could Oscar Bonavena Have lasted 12 Rounds With Peak Tyson??

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So tough he quit against Brian Nielsen.
     
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  2. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    thats a weak heart not toughness for taking damage
     
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  3. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    Compare a fighter Tyson beat that fought like Bonavena. Who comes to mind?

    Tyson most likely obliterates Bonavena within 3 rounds tops.
     
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  4. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What? Not wanting to take damage causes a person to quit.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Mike Tyson didn't knock out anyone in three rounds in 1987 ... Tucker went the distance ... Smith went the distance ... Tyrell Biggs basically throwing nothing back went seven ...

    Also, keep in mind in 1987 Mike Tyson's hair was falling out in patches because he was so stressed out being a new champion at the age of 21. That's why oafs like Smith could hold him for 12 rounds and get away with it.

    A guy like Bonavena not only doesn't get stopped early - because NO ONE stopped Bonavena early -- but Bonavena may have scored the upset win that year. Cayton and Jacobs almost replaced Rooney that year.

    Bonavena went to war with Frazier in their title fight. Could Tyson go to war in 1987?

    He didn't look like he wanted to go to war against Bonehugger. And you had to stay busy to beat Bonavena. He wasn't going to let you lay around and kill time in clinches.

    Bonavena was even busier than Tyson that year. He fought eight times in 1968 to Tyson's four in 1987.
     
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  6. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "More advanced, moved better" - yeah, sure. I'm convinced now that you simply are unable to grasp what's happening B&W footage. Either that, or you simply don't understand the basics of your beloved sport.
     
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  7. Sangria

    Sangria You bleed like Mylee Full Member

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    What? Dude, Tyson ****in obliterates Bonavena homeboy! I don't care how well your writing skills are. Saying Bonavena lasts the distance against Tyson because Bonavena never got stopped early is lame. Pink Thomas never got stopped in his life before facing Tyson.

    Tyson KO 3 Bonavena. Please stop replying because it will get worse for you.
     
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  8. michael mullen

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    Yes, Bonavena would have gone 10, 12 or 15 with Mike Tyson....he would have lost decisions, no matter what the agreed upon distance s were, but yes, he was very capable of, and would have, IMO, gone the limit with Tyson. Ringo had an excellent sense of distance, a he proved both times vs Frazier, but not vs the tall sharpshooters like Ellis and Ali....but we know that Tyson wasn't a tall sharpshooter..
     
  9. moneytheman12

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    no it wasnt oscar dropped joe easy by a counter and almost ended him nobody ever almost ended smith that fast and smith did hit harder it's on video
     
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  10. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    facts legend san another one they underrate pink who was skilled and moved good
     
  11. moneytheman12

    moneytheman12 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I so called dont understand but have yet to be debunked in mutiple debates vs legend trolls like magoo pernell you

    I had no debunk of son moving better then bowe pink of razor that I showed proof they all moved better than him
    magoo said he thinks son moved better which is cause he has a vision problem cause on video they for a fact did move better

    I wasnt debunked when I gave pernell flaws through the bull of George beating mike when I asked him who did he beat who was like me and mike beat all sluggers he gave be bull flawed quotes agian which shows he had no debunk for it

    I asked you and others who did louis fight or beat who moved like him never answer cause it didnt exist

    I am one of the best people here when it comes to exposing bull outdated quotes so you dont understand im not the one who lies or acts blind
     
  12. Glass City Cobra

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    Bonavena went a combined 57 rounds with Patterson, Lyle, Chuvalo, Frazier (twice). None of them could put a dent in him or floor him.

    His sole KO loss was the very last 15th round against Ali, who won via 3 knockdown rule with a sneaky shot Oscar didn't see coming and literally wasn't given enough time to recover from as Ali didn't properly return to the neutral corner.

    I really don't see Tyson scoring an early KO against such a rugged iron chinend opponent who'd be smothering him and meeting him ring center for a phone booth battle every round. I think at the very earliest he might be able to stop him by maybe the 8th, but he'd need to land lots of combinations. No single shot is going to do it.
     
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  13. JohnThomas1

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    I really don't think we can use Mathis either, surely.

    It's not far fetched that Oscar might last long or go the distance, indeed. He's tough.
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    Personally i'm taking Tyson by stoppage. Richard is the only one to recognise Jimmy Ellis dropped Bonavena twice in their bout (including early) and to add to that he had him going on other occasions as well. He was greatly troubled by Ellis's speed until he wore down and Jimmy wasn't half the puncher Tyson was. Tyson was also a far superior finisher. Oscar is tough but quite crude and Tyson does not mind crude.

    Trevor Berbick was only stopped early career by the huge punching Mercado prior to Tyson dismantling him and he was never stopped again despite having some challenging fights all the way to an advanced age.

    I think Tyson stopping Thomas would be just as impressive a feat personally. Thomas really toughed it out and tho past his best still took one helluva punch.

    Citing Tucker and Bonecrusher is largely irrelevant as both, particularly Smith, were happy to fight for survival and hang all over Tyson when he opened up. Both were big tall men fighting negatively. They are nothing like Oscar and nor would he fight anything like them. Tyson TKO anywhere from 3 to 6 for me. I'd hate to put my life on Oscar going the distance.
     
  15. 70sFan865

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    This is parody at this point :D :D :D