Could Pac/Floyd play out like Williams/Wright?

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  1. BizarroRJJ

    BizarroRJJ Active Member Full Member

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    Where Pac = Williams, Floyd = Wright. After the Cotto fight and viewing the nonstop attack and high volume output of punches by Pac, I dont know how Floyd stops it regardless of his great defense and counter punching. Roach has already implied that would pretty much be the gameplan, to hit Floyd everywhere and break him down. Wright has always been a defensive wizard and excellent counter puncher and never dominated like he was in a fight against Williams. And Wright has been in the ring with boxing greats. But that high volume output/speed and nonstop attack vs Wright from Williams, had Wright have no answer. And it was really nothing more technical then that from Williams, just lots of fast punches from various angles nonstop for 12 rounds. We now have 3 champions that have commented similarly after getting KO'd by Pac: Diaz/ODH/Cotto-all mentioned so many punches from different angels that were so fast and nonstop. Is Floyd going to be able to stop this and realisticly counter? After Pac ate Cotto's punches and then asked for more, I dont know how Floyd even hurts Pac and how he wins a decision if Pac outthrows and outlands Floyd for 12 rounds?

    Calzaghe did the same thing to BHOP, minus having any power. And BHOP knows how to roll punches and has a bag of tricks. Very interesting how a high nonstop work rate affected both these defensive greats.
     
  2. Starched Him

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  3. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Pac doesnt have the reach advantage PW had,and hes not going to face a shot fighter like Wright was.
     
  4. BizarroRJJ

    BizarroRJJ Active Member Full Member

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    Please dont claim Wright was shot. He had never been dominated like that. Hes probably now shot after that fight, but going into it he had not dropped off in his skills. Thats like calling Hatton or Cotto shot, of course after their losses now to Pac. Oscar, that was a shot fighter. Wright was not at that stage yet when he met Paul. Forgot about the reach advantage that Paul did have. But again, he completely broke down Wrights defense with simply fast high volume punches. Makes you wonder if that just might be the answer to cracking a defense like Floyds.
     
  5. Rooney

    Rooney Boxing Junkie banned

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  6. Rooney

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    You do realise Williams is taller than wright?:rofl
     
  7. Quarteysjab

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    hey rooney i got news for you, floyd is going to price himself out of the fight and HBO will fire his ass.
     
  8. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    no it wouldnt...

    pacman doesnt throw that high of an output... he just has high volume combo's... as opposed to raw output
    floyd doesnt plod foward..
     
  9. BizarroRJJ

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    Take away reach advantage and lets look at Calzag vs BHOP. Less power, but still high punch output against BHOPs great D. Was BHOP shot too?
     
  10. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    You're right ,Wright who was 36 or so coming of two years of inactivity was in his prime,and while we're at it forget the reach advantage too cause that obviously didnt have anything to do with the result :nut:nut:nut
     
  11. GDG

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    In short.....No.

    Floyds defense and Wrights are completely different...as are Pacs and Williams offense.

    I think this is a terrible comparison.
     
  12. BizarroRJJ

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    Calzag vs BHOP then. Or RJJ vs Calzag. Fine, RJJ shot, doesnt mean still doesnt have great D. In both cases Calzags speed and high punch output broke down their D. Dont know that a defensive fighter thats not offensive or solely a counter puncher, has good chances vs a fast high volume nonstop boxer.
     
  13. GDG

    GDG Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No matter how good a fighter you are, if you allow Wright to establish his jab he'll beat you. Williams nullified it with his reach and that's why he'd give any version of Wright a long night IMO.

    Wright was great but if you could beat his jab you could beat him.
     
  14. finalfight

    finalfight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Manny can't hit what he can't get too. Mayweather will have him pouncing and lunging into thin air whilst tagging him from angles on the revolve.

    Mayweather wins this and makes it look easy, no doubt in my mind.
     
  15. elTerrible

    elTerrible TeamElite General Manager Full Member

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    I think that is Pac's only real chance is to win by volume because he aint going to outbox PBF and he isnt going to be able to land enough to stop him.

    One difference though with Hops/calzaghe and williams/wright is that hops and wright were old and PBF is still young. Wright hadnt fought in 2 years and he didnt have the pop in his jab and reflexes he used to. williams also had a huge reach advatage over wright which pac doesnt have over pbf.

    But pac did have a tendency to slow down and box with JMM so I think that PBF can get him to do the same. And if Pac is coming on aggressive, PBF will back up and use movement to slow him down.