Could Pacquiao win a belt at 140 or higher?

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  1. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whow, you just found the solution. :lol:

    Floyd starts slow, PAC starts fast, if he pressure Floyd at the beggining
    he may find a way to catch him cold like he did to Marquez.

    The problem, PAC didn't finish Marquez and Floyd is stronger so probably
    PAc will not finish Floyd either. So where we are going from there?

    Myabe the damage done in first round will do the job and the rest of the
    fight will be competitive or maybe Floyd get frutrated and finally go for
    exchange instead run away and counterpunch?
     
  2. Stinky gloves

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    OK, speaking on the natural wieght and level of damage, a few matchups:
    Peter-Toney, Wright-Hopkins, ... Darchynian-Taylor :lol: .... it is not always so simple.
     
  3. MJRJJ23

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    If Mayweather can eat Zabs straight left at 147 I dont think he'll have any problem at all with Pac's. Pac's power just wont carry itself up that high in weight. Zab's straight left @147 >>> Pac's straight left at 140 let alone 147

    Note.. Zab at 147 is alot faster than Pac would be at 147..
     
  4. Asterion

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
  5. Stinky gloves

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    Zab is faster indeed, however he is not so dedicated like PAC.
    PAC would never run away like a chicken as Judah did against Baldomir.
    So where we are going from there, PAC would eat some Floyd counterpunches
    but he will easily get to the ditsance where he do the damage on his own.
    The problem is, will PAC be able to land anything significant which will do real damage?

    How about a left hook, a PAc new weapon?
     
  6. Stinky gloves

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    Hell are you :huh :lol: ;)
     
  7. Stinky gloves

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    Wrong, I didn't said everyone :blood I said, David Diaz at 135, Rees at 140 and Mayweather :scaredas:.

    He can't beat anyone with title at welterweight ... all of them are bad matchups.
    Judah is also wrong for PAC, too dirty. Baldomir to good chin and too strong.
    And probably not top guys from 140lb.

    Is the Mayweather part pissing you off, are you aftraid of hypothetical matchups :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl?
     
  8. Stinky gloves

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    Wrong again, I really think PAC can do it, if he does it will put him within #5 ATG, you have problem with that?
     
  9. Stinky gloves

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    So you are telling that boxing is a sport and picking Mayweather without any reasonable discussion isn't nuthugging :rofl:rofl:rofl

    I never said PAc will beat Floyd, I'm looking for possible ways how he can do it.
    If you speaking about PAc nuthuggins ask PAC real "fans" who I am :lol::lol::lol:
     
  10. ravtrav

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    :lol:
     
  11. MJRJJ23

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    If Floyd can avoid rather easily Zab's faster hand speed and more powerful right hand, "Zab also seemed dedicated in this fight unlike Baldo" He wont have a problem avoiding Pac's. Also you say PAC would eat Floyd's punches I totally disagree. Mayweather had good power untill 147. Knocked out or stopped some pretty solid oponents. Mayweather will have advantages in Power/skill/speed/defense/intelligence and so on. m Not taking away from Pac but its just not feesible for Pac to even attempt to fight Mayweather ESP at 154.
     
  12. MJRJJ23

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    Id give Pac a better chance against Judah and Baldo then Mayweather. I think he MIGHT be able to hurt Judah and he might be able to out work Baldo to some sort of decision. Even though its extremely doubtful he could do either of those.. Mayweather would take Pac to school its just common sense
     
  13. MJRJJ23

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    Finally out of the newbie catagory :happy
     
  14. Stinky gloves

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    You and numbers again, Floyd even champion at 154 never was and probably never will be above 150lb. Floyd comfrotable weight is 147lb and PAcs 140-144lb.

    Lets compare:
    - punching power ... who really knows, PAC is powerfull as well :bbb
    - skills ... big advantage of Floyd :tired
    - speed .. advantage of Floyd, while PAC is fast enough to get to inside,
    ask Morales, Barrera and Marquez :deal
    - defense ... clearly for Floyd :hi:
    - intelligence Floyd easily :blood

    You have some other options:
    - chin ... pretty good match :bump
    - pressure and heart ... clearly for PAC

    Conclusion, Floyd beat PAC like 8 times in 10.
    However assuming PAC have no chance is completely unreasonable.

    So isn't a fun for you guys to find out how would look like the two
    cases when PAC whoops Floyd ass and school his chin?

    :hat
     
  15. MJRJJ23

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    I see your point but I think where looking at it 2 different ways. At Pac's prime weight I think he has quicker handspeed than Judah at Judah's prime weight, In that sense I would agree with you. But he's talkin about a fight @154. NO way can Pac remain the same handspeed going up 25+ pounds out of his Prime weight where Zab's prime weight is pretty much 140-147. I'm sayin I think a 147 Ib Zab (where Floyd fought him of course) is going to have faster handspeed than an extremely blown up Pac at 154.