Could peak Floyd Mayweather have beat all Sugar Ray Leonard challengers

So Floyd didn't KO guys better than Leonard did, got ya.

 

You're correct Mayweather was unbeaten. But that doesn't invalidate Loudon's assertion that he couldn't have outboxed Hearns, he clearly wouldn't have been able too.

It's not a fair comparison though, FM fought from SFW to LMW, TH from WW to CW. I rank Mayweather higher p4p, but he would have stood no chance vs Hearns prime for prime. None. It's literally the worst stylistic match up possible for him at 147lbs. Worse than SRL and at least as bad as SRR.

 

Nobody ever outboxed Hearns.

Facts only.


Floyd never fought or beat any prime ATGs.

Facts only.

 

Floyd never put together the combinations that Raymond did.

Floyd had zero power above WW.

He didn’t even throw power punches in fights against Oscar and Canelo.

 

You must have missed the fights against Hatton and Ortiz.

Both of those guys were a level above Raymond.

 

Imagine if Hearns had, had that free shot against Victor. Frightening.

 

Floyd knocked out the lineal 140 champ instead of ducking him.

 

Fighter A was neither knocked out nor outboxed.
Fighter B was knocked out, but wasn’t outboxed (other than losing a decision to Barkley , being down on the cards to Hagler, and getting a draw against Leonard).

Fighter A knocks out fighter B or outboxes him (because fighter B was actually outboxed several times). Logic only.

 

It’s really not going to end well for you if you want to talk about Floyd and ducking.

 

He didn’t duck. You’ll simply look like an idiot if you mention “Toothache” Mosley, “Scared of Needles” Pacqiao, or “Zero 147 Title Defenses” Williams.

 

There’s ZERO logic in what you’ve just written.

ZERO.

Zero context applied.


Fighter B was only ever beaten by attributes that fighter A DIDN’T possess.


Fighter A didn’t possess the attributes needed to either have outboxed or knocked out, fighter B.


If you really think that Floyd could have knocked out Hearns, then it’s straight jacket time for you.

 

He didn’t duck?

Ha!


He put up every conceivable road block to dodge the Manny fight.

Manny backed down to him on 2 occasions, where he AGREED to Floyd’s demands, yet the fight still didn’t happen until years later, and only after he’d been iced by JMM.

And after years of slandering Manny with zero evidence, it was HE who took an illegal IV in his home, without disclosing it to the commission.


He also ran his mouth off to Winky, telling him that he was going to move up and embarrass him. Winky then agreed to every one of Floyd’s terms, before Floyd then changed his demands at the last second which scuppered the deal.


The thought of him signing a contract to fight a guy like Hearns, whilst sat there with his ‘TMT’ baseball cap on, literally makes me laugh out loud.

 

When was Hearns outboxed several times?


He wasn’t outboxed by Marvin.

Marvin jumped on him straight away and enforced a shootout.


Barkley didn’t outbox him with technical skills.

He overpowered him.


The whole boxing world knows that the draw against Ray in the rematch was a robbery.


So when was he outboxed?

 

I don't think he beats his two most prominent challengers in Hearns and Duran.

Benitez and Hagler weren't challengers, but he loses to both as well.

That said, pound-for-pound, he's better than at least 2 of these men, and, in my opinion, better than Leonard himself.

 

Hearns wouldve been ko'd by the headbutt and Steward would be left cussing to himself about a leg massage in the dressing room.