Could Robinson dominate this welterweight division?

Lol at Carmen Basilio "when he died I said to myself I don't give a ****." atsch

 

Thanks acb, never saw that one before, most of the footage is stuff ive seen, but it never gets old with SRR!!

 

He was a great welter aswell, Basilio, but i think he had a bitter thing when it came to Robinson

 

The one thing about this video if I remember correctly is that they discuss many of his problems, family issues, spousal abuse that I haven't seen in other videos.

 

Far too strong and deep a talent pool for someone to truly dominate. Robinson might ultimately prove the top guy of the era, but I don't doubt that he would lose and struggle numerous times if he had to choose his opponents off that list. Let us not forget, he did have a close call or two against ordinary fighters during his actual middleweight career; he was an incredible fighter, but he was not a god.

 

Well, there are at least 24 minutes of Robinson/Fusari currently available for purchase, so the complete 15 rounds must still exist someplace. The idea that there isn't more of him as welterweight champion is an awful lot to swallow, considering his prominence at the time, and the fact that he finally reached the top during the postwar period. (Hell, a year ago, people thought that the Fusari footage was a bull**** fantasy too, so do NOT give up hope!)

 

I see Robinson having a world of problems with Burley. Walker was aggressive, yes, but it was well-schooled, probably better technically than LaMotta which gives me pause. Hearns would be enormously dangerous to Robinson until about round 8 or 9 when his durability issues would kick in.

Those are the three major obstacles in order with their hypothetical record against Robinson:

Burley (SRR 3-2)
Walker (~SRR 3-2)
Hearns (SRR 4-1)

 

Thanks, im hopeful!!!

 

When the top fighters one another over a series of fights then there are always going to be wins either way.

 

Good. Britton's superiority over Lewis is huge in this context. Solid reasoning concerning Walcott.

Regarding, Hank, the cast of his fist stuck in in my mind when I first visited the IBHOF years ago. While Carnera had the biggest fist of any cast in the display case, Armstrong had the tiniest of them all. I've suspected ever since that he may have actually been a natural featherweight.

Interesting that he became a dominant welterweight champion while below the lightweight limit, while Ambers put him through hell in winning the triple crown.

 

Loi sounds like something else! I guess arguebly took three of three against Ortiz. I need to find out more about him. The only video of him available is the Famechon (spelling?) fight, that I've heard.
Napoles/Walker? I think that Walker would eventually be able to impose his strength on Napoles late in the fight, with Jose taking the earlier rounds...it would be a tight affair. If I have to pick a winner? Walker on workrate and aggressiveness, if Napoles is too stationary, Walker might grind him down and stop him late. Walker would have been very strong at the weight, but I'll stick with Walker by narrow decision. I think Walker was more fierce at middleweight.
Addendum: one guy you overlooked is Luis Manual Rodriguez. Major problems for anybody at the weight.

 

Dominate no, who could? But he'd come out the best of the bunch overall.

 

I'll admit that I hardly know anything on Loi...but he is held in very high regard. Would he beat Armstrong at the lightweight/welterweight range? It sounds like Loi was very strong, but against Armstrong? I don't think I've seen any footage of Armstrong taking a backward step, against much bigger opposition.