Could Roy Jones have won a 154 lb title in his pro debut?

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  1. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lets roll it back. Jones fresh off his Olympic loss turns pro May 1989 but in this timeline he gets a world title shot right out of the gate.

    The titilsts at this time are
    40-0 Darrrin Van Horn (IBF)
    24-9-1 Rene Jacquot (WBC)
    37-1 Julian Jackson (WBA)


    I think Jackson would of been a real bad choice, but the other titilsts...beatable by a 0-0 Jones Jr?
     
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  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes.
     
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  3. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    Of course
     
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  4. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd pay so much money to watch Roy execute Van Horn.
     
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  5. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, even a debut Jones would've sslaughtered Van Horn and Jacquot.
     
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  6. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jackson would have been far too dangerous. But, he would have probably beaten Jacqot. (Hard to say for sure, though. Going from the amateurs to fighting a seasoned pro is not always as easy as it looks. Even if the pro is a level below. See Lomachencko vs Salido)

    He would have obliterated Van Horn.
     
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  7. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes.
     
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  8. Wvboxer

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    Jackson would’ve been extremely dangerous but Roy would’ve had a shot.

    He definitely could’ve beat the other two!
     
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  9. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I doubt anyone is sending a debutant, regardless of their talent, in against Jackson. The risk greatly outweighs the reward in this instance.
     
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  10. Xplosive

    Xplosive Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jackson would KO Roy in Roy's debut, let's be real.

    By about his 15th fight, Roy was I'm sure ready to beat Jackson.
     
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  11. Saintpat

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    There was a thread asking which fighters might have been suited to win a title in their debut (in real time, taking in account who the champs were when they debuted) and I thought RJJ was the obvious choice.
     
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  12. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd fancy Nigel Benn to cause Frank Tate hell in 1987.
     
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  13. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For the record there is a man who entire professional career as a boxer was as a fill in fight against Prime Ernie Shavers. Anything goes.

    Oh and Archie Moore fought a guy in his debut directly after KOing Yvon Durelle.
     
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  14. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    To clarify, a debutant you wish to succeed.
     
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  15. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Didn't a gold medalist fight Floyd Patterson in his debut?
     
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