Could Sam Peter go another 12 rounds with Wlad?

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  1. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In the first fight Peter took bombs for all 12 rounds... and he was only wobbled once. I thought if the 12th round was longer Vlad could have finished Sam off or at least gotten a KD... but it didnt happen.

    So do u guys think he can last the distance with Vlad again?

    Even Lamon Brewster who has one of the best chins in boxing could only go 6 rounds with Vlad
     
  2. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Waldo finishing Sam in the 12th is another great ESB fallacy. Sam had recovered in all of 5 seconds. He wobbled but got his bearings long before Waldo even got another jab off.

    I think you need to consider who hit the deck 3 times in the first place. Waldo would be lucky to make 12 rounds again, let alone be enabled to clinch 96 tmes over 12 rounds.
     
  3. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    if Peter tries to box him like he did Toney than no, he may not see the 12th round.
     
  4. vonBanditos

    vonBanditos M΃derator Full Member

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    It's a complete tossup for me. I feel that Peter has significantly improved, but I also feel that Wladimir fought afraid the first time around. When he did commit he did wobble Peter, even if it was brief. If he felt confident as a result of the first fight he might do better, though he's still so tentative these days.

    I wouldn't know what to expect. That's why I love boxing and I'd love a rematch.
     
  5. Zerwas1

    Zerwas1 Active Member Full Member

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    If it's about beer, than jeah
     
  6. King Dan

    King Dan Golovkin Full Member

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    In a rematch, I'd go with Peter TKO9 Klit
     
  7. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    I don't see Sam attacking Waldo the same way he did Toney. Waldo is a big target and so Sam doesn't have to pick his punches so much. He is also very open defensively if you can close the gap between him and you. I do however think Sam would go to the body more in a rematch.

    Waldo on the other hand is going to do exactly what he did the first time, which is try to negate all offense inside. He won't let Sam get off because he knows it can end on one bomb.

    No mistake about it this is the top contest at heavyweight today. I think when these two first met up the ESPN board was absolutely hopping, and the gate sales for Waldo-Sam were pretty good as well.

    With both holding a title and a rematch of a close first fight, this is a fight that sells itself.
     
  8. Sug3

    Sug3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vitali can say he would fight peter,but then he would eventually fake a injury moments before the fight and wladimir know's peter has gotten better and peter's the last name he would talk about fighting.
     
  9. Sug3

    Sug3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd pay for the ppv.
     
  10. LennoxGOAT

    LennoxGOAT Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wlad would win easily.

    Even if Wlad would get caught with "one bomb," he still would be able to recover as Peter's skills aren't good enough to finish. Wlad has never been beaten by "one bomb" so I don't see Peter starting something that has never happened after all of Wlad's fights.
     
  11. wrastla285

    wrastla285 Member Full Member

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    had no clue beating an old shot james toney made you "better" or improved.
     
  12. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    It does when that old shot fighter has draws/victories with then reigning champions.:smoke
     
  13. Sug3

    Sug3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dont call a shot james toney giving rahman a good fight,outclassed ruiz and last time i looked he beat the brakes off of holyfield who is now fighting for a title shot.
     
  14. dragosuhail

    dragosuhail Active Member Full Member

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    i recorded all of wlad's clinches and it came to about 61 :deal and the excess came in two rounds from memory. the other rounds were quite average or even below average for a heavyweight fight :deal

    haters add an extra 30 or so just cause they are blinded by bias. :deal

    also wladimir went down once from a punch. the other two were bull****, especially in the replay when you can see they weren't legit. hell, even the one legit kd didn't really hurt him if you looked at how he went down and got back up. kinda like the off balance shot williamson hit him with. :deal

    wladimir will only have more confidence in a rematch. like brewster in his rematch with wlad, sam will have LESS confidence in the rematch. brewster knew he got lucky last time... and peters knows he was lucky that wladimir crowded himself when he went in to ko or kd peters when he was hurt. in fact peters was momentarily hurt in the FIRST ROUND from a left hook, which saw him bobbing up and down like a yo-yo to avoid a follow up :deal

    if peters tries to bring is lame newfound boxing skills to the rematch he will only get ko'ed. no one has a chance at wladimir's specialty. corrie sanders won by spontaneous flurry of action, which caught wladimir unprepared, while brewster and purrity won by doing a Homer Simpson. :deal

    peters MIGHT be improved but beating up a nearly 40 year old obese roided middleweight with no power - after nearly losing the first contest! - does not bode well for him. wladimir has only gotten more comfortable and relaxed in the ring. wlad has improved WAY more than peters. :deal

    wlad will kick your "Saviours" ass again and school him even more so. im even confident he'll ko peters next time round... provided peters can prove he belongs with the elite by beating another 40'ish heavy in maskaev :rofl

    sorry but clutching for straws out of desperation will not allow you to think objectively :deal
     
  15. dragosuhail

    dragosuhail Active Member Full Member

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    ambition def and sug3... come on.

    so what if toney did okay for a middleweight against them? he was roided when he beat ruiz who isn't exactly a great champ. and rahman? he wasn't exactly a sharpshooter and in shape himself was he? sure build up tony's wins to in turn make peters look good but if you dont start looking at the reality on the ground, you'll just end up embarrassed in the local pub when your buddies say "so you are hardcore boxing fan huh? i thought peters was supposed to win the rematch?"

    seriously, you might hate wladimir... oh sorry it's waldo :roll: but it makes you look silly when you constantly keep avoiding sound logic and going with your heart every time out.