Could Sonny Liston have made it undefeated vs Louis title defenses?

Even an old Patterson was a formidable opponent.Again how many times do I have to repeat this---Ali and Frazier would make easy work of the overwhelming majority of heavyweights throughout history.

 

Robbed Quarry and Patterson, and Patterson was past prime at the time of the tournament.

Nope, it was weak time, Ali was stripped of the title, Frazier was green and did not enter the tournament, Floyd and Liston were past prime, there were not Foreman and Norton around too.

Chuvalo also being past prime and at very best nothing good, could be easily outboxed, was crude slugger even cruder than Bonavena.

As I stated, Ellis never beat anyone good, except robbing even old Patterson and robbing injured Quarry with a broken back.

World-class fighter who was not in the top 5 or even 10 in the 70s.

 

Lie, Ezzard Charles have very low KO percentages; most of their wins were decisions.

He was past his best, Norton and Foreman would destroy Ellis too, Shavers KOed him inside 1 round, and even Lyle, who was crude slugger, outboxed Ellis.

 

Just because a fighter has a low ko percentage doesn't mean he can't punch.For instance George Chuvalo named Mel Turnbow as one of the hardest punchers he ever fought,and
Turnbow had a very low ko record.

 

"Chuvalo said..." Chuvalo was a sore loser, and it is normal for him to praise the guy he beat.

Ezzard Charles could punch okay, but was not hard puncher by any means.

 

Good contender for his moment in time, I'd say. Which was the transitional period before the better 70s guys started coming off the assembly line.

 

Exactly.Jimmy was a good contender.Not the nobody a certain poster is constantly making him out to be !

 

No no no ! George Chuvalo was a very honourable man and if he said something he meant it.
Honestly,you need to look at some footage of Ezzard Charles.That man could really punch if he
had to.

 

Not anything you said is true. Perhaps Chuvalo never praised any of his opponents, except maybe Ali and Frazier. He had an excuse for every loss and was known as a sore loser.

Charles could never punch; he was not known as a puncher, but more like a boxer. He was not a feather fisted, but he was not a good puncher either.

 

Comfortably at his peak, though Schmleing is a worrisome matchup as are Baer, Pastor, Farr, Conn are quite dangerous if Liston peaks as late in this timeline as he did IRL.

 

Sir, if Charles was not feather-fisted then he was good puncher !

 

No, he was not among the lowest KO percentage.

 

Aha,but as I've already said a low KO percentage doesn't automatically mean a lack of punching power.

 

I've seen a couple of fights where he perspired heavily and yet the opponent still lasted until the final bell.

There's no way he's a puncher.

 

LOL ! !