Could Sonny Liston have made it undefeated vs Louis title defenses?

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  1. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Name me a good puncher with a low KO percentage, if you can.
     
  2. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The big hitting Ike Williams had a 39% KO percentage.
     
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  3. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ike Williams big hitting?

    He was good finisher not a hard puncher and was known for 1-2 combo, but not a great puncher.

    Plus he never beat anyone good except Gavilan.
     
  4. mcvey

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    He was the first one I thought of!
     
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  5. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    By all means --- Sugar Ray Leonard.
     
  6. Greg Price99

    Greg Price99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm unsure whether describing Ike Williams as a not hard puncher who never beat anyone aside from Kid Gavilan, is a more ridiculous statement than a boxer sweating during a fight is indicative that he struggled. It's close either way.
     
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  7. JohnThomas1

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    I'm sure a peruse thru his posts would supply many more such morsels on that level too.
     
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  8. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not true, Robinson's KO percentage is 62 percent, hardly low, and Robinson was LW, fought WW, and MW. It is normal for his KO percentage to be lower than usual, but it is not low by any means.
     
  9. Spreadeagle

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    The Sugar Ray I'm referring to is Leonard not Robinson.
     
  10. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was not a hard puncher at all; he was fast, with great speed and work rate, but he was a pillow-fisted fighter compared to many of his contemporaries.
     
  11. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    There is absolutely no way Sugar Ray Leonard could be described as '' pillow -fisted ''. With respect
    you have made an utterly absurd statement.
     
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  12. BoxingFan2002

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    Whom he knocked out?

    He was high output puncher but not a hard puncher by any mean, he was the softest puncher of all of them.
     
  13. Spreadeagle

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    Now you're being ridiculous.'' Softest puncher of all of them '' ? What absolute rubbish.
    Watch Sugar Ray's KOs of Dave ' Boy ' Green and Donny Lalonde.
     
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  14. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is beyond silly.
    And if you believe this, take a week, watch every Leonard fight available in its entirety.
    If you still believe it you're trolling....
    Or blind.
     
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  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    No, I don't think so. He'd do better against some guys like Baer, Godoy and Galento, but worse against guys like Conn, Charles and Walcott. Stylistically, these are very hard fights for him, and at any stage in his caeer I'd expect him to lose all three. He's not chance less, coz he can knock them all out, but I think they probably mug him.