Could Spinks have actually troubled/beaten Tyson with a different mindset?

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  1. Haggis McJackass

    Haggis McJackass Semi-neutralist Overseer Full Member

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    He came in terrified, froze, and was steamrolled.

    But he was a better fighter than that. He was an undefeated champion. If he'd come in with Buster/Evander type resolve, how well could he have done? :think

    Discuss.

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  2. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nah, no matter his mind set going into the fight, look at his eyes roll back into his head when Tyson misses a hook by an inch or two early.

    He knew then he couldn't deal with Tyson's speed. That wouldn't have changed.
     
  3. yancey

    yancey Active Member Full Member

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    Different attitude, about one minute longer.
     
  4. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    I do not think Spinks was scared. There was a big delay and all that, but Spinks was a professional who fought guys like Qawi and Holmes. Mike was sharp that night and put it all together. It would be interesting to see the Spinks who beat Holmes in the second fight vs. the Tyson who fought Douglas.
     
  5. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Jinx was among the very slowest starters of any ATG, while Tyson was among the fastest. Horrible contrast for the loser. I just don't see how Spinks would have ever had a chance to warm up and get on track before being taken out. Tyson was too astute to allow this.
     
  6. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    smaller man will always get toasted against tyson.
     
  7. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It was always on the card that Tyson would beat Spinks early. Maybe one or two rounds more,but no longer.
     
  8. Azzer85

    Azzer85 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And that would have included Holyfield pre 1991 IMO
     
  9. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    In a word...no. Spinks may have lasted into the second round had he not been so obviously terrified of Tyson, but he wouldn't have seen the end of round 2. Michael Spinks wasn't mean't to be a serious competitor for Mike Tyson.
     
  10. crippet

    crippet Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spinks was diabolical that night - An over-rated win which inflates Tyson's legacy to a larger degree than it deserves.
    That version of Spinks wouldn't have lasted a round against dozens of heavyweights - The Tyson that lost to Lewis would still have KO'd Spinks in 1 round.

    Spinks was brow beaten out of retirement and just there for the money...
     
  11. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Spinks believed he could win, he just got caught early against histories fastest most brutal early rounds knock out artist
     
  12. Unforgiven

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    I think Tyson was just way too good for him.

    The "scared" thing, I don't know.
    I remember as early as 1986 when Tyson beat Berbick, Michael Spinks was making unconfident statements when answering questions about Tyson.
    He always seemed to express doubts.
    On the other hand, I don't think he fought in a particularly scared manner at all.

    Spinks went in against a prime Tyson with a grand total of 4 heavyweight fights under his belt, two against an over-the-hill Holmes (one being extremely controversial win), one against a washed-up Cooney, and one against a Norwegian tomato can.
    All his other fights had been at 175.
    A prime Tyson was a huge step up, a young heavyweight with speed and power ..... A LOT of speed and power.