Could the 38 year old walcott who fought rocky win the belt in other eras?

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    That Lewis was blowing after 2 rounds. With hindsight most world class men would have ended him that night. Hell if Rahman hadn't turned the trick I'm sure you'd dismiss his chances as well.
     
  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Lewis was beatable in that condition. I agree.
     
  3. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Joe louis was not even in his prime in his first fight with schmeling he was a green boy,the rematch was in 1938 when he was in his prime. Trying to insinuate that it was the general rule and that a defeat does not change the mind and "magic" of an undefeated fighter because louis won a rematch and did recover his confidence is laughable
     
  4. lufcrazy

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    My phone must be playing up, it looked as if you agreed with me then!
     
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  5. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    The problem is that i think that even this version of lewis beats walcott.too big and strong for him
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    No one is too big and strong when there cardio lasts 6 minutes.
     
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  7. Contro

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    Not the same. Not at all. Frazier started slow. Tyson had much better stamina and would become less agressive and start using his jab more if his opponent didnt go early. Armstrong was an exception.

    Foreman isnt Frazier, the proof is in how much better Frazier performed against ali

    Young Foreman was in essence just a very strong, large angry young man, who lost and learned his lesson when he fought Ali who unlike frazier and Norton wasnt taylor made.
     
  8. JohnThomas1

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    Foremans stamina didn't come into play when guys were being carried out of the ring tho. The only fight all the way up to Ali stamina was an issue in was against Ali, the greatest of all time. Ali was always going to be too good no matter what Foreman did.

    Truth be told his stamina wasn't too bad at all in the Ali fight considering the heat. He went all out trying to get Ali out of there but not many in history would have been still standing when Ali was. Frazier and Norton obviously being two of them.

    Foreman's strengths were his size, power, strength, intimidation and aggression. Once he lost some aggression and and intimidation he was not the same fighter.

    We will agree to disagree, i know that the majority would probably be on your side of the ledger.

    Cheers Contro.
     
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  9. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    It is not truth at all and you know it .no top elte fighter got a cardio only for 2 rounds so stop this crap
     
  10. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Perfect post. After reading it the majority will agrre with you
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    Have you watched his fight against Rahman? He was gassed ridiculously early.

    His training was poor in comparison to his usual camp due to the oceans film. He totally overlooked Rahman as an opponent.

    That's how bad he was that night, he actually lost to Hasim Rahman.
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    The other big factor was the altitude which he did not arrive early enough to acclimatize to and contributed to his ridiculous lack of wind.
     
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  13. lufcrazy

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    Yeah his overall preparation was just not championship standard.
     
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  14. JohnThomas1

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    Wasn't even contender standard. Not even trailhorse standard.
     
  15. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Well you know, it won’t last,:thumbsup: