Could The Best Of Max Baer Beat Liston?

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Who wins?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Nat Fleischer once remarked of Baer "Greatness might have been his, had he learned to box.. And set up a defence".
    So with that in mind, is it reasonable to say that the best of Max could never beat Sonny Liston, at his best?
    Max, who destroyed Schmeling meets Liston, who kod Folley?
    And 15 rounds to decide.
     
    Fergy, Apr 13, 2020
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  2. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hmm could he if he got lucky? Sure. Would he? I don’t think so. Liston stops him in similar fashion to Louis.
     
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  3. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Liston had a fasr better jab and an 84 inch reach, he would catch Baer with that ramrod jab easily and take Baer out with one of his hooks.
     
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  4. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think so. Baer is one of the least impressive heavyweight champions that I have watched. Liston could hurt you multiple ways.
     
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  5. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Could? Yeah, probably. Baer was a very dangerous fighter.
    Would? Not likely, Liston had too good jab for Max to overcome.

    That said, I disagree that Liston would destroy him like Louis did. Louis was much faster than Liston and that was the main Baer's weakness. Liston wasn't faster than Baer and Maxie would definitely have his moments. I'd bet on late technical stoppage, similar one to first Nova fight.
     
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  6. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yet one of the most dangerous.
     
    70sFan865, Apr 13, 2020
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  7. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No doubt he was naturally heavy handed. I'm not knocking him, he did win the heavyweight title and was great in his era. But when I watch Liston fight, I see a much more versatile/talented guy.
     
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  8. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    I think yes.
     
    Dance84, Apr 13, 2020
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  9. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    Anything can happen with two big punchers like that, but the smart money is on Liston here.
     
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  10. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Liston walks through him.
     
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  11. tommytheduke

    tommytheduke Active Member Full Member

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    Baer could get to Liston just like C.Williams, but Max hit even harder than the Cat and size wouldn't be a issue here. Max by KO
     
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  12. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The champion with one of the longest, most powerful jabs in HW history, against a stiff, can't-slip-a-jab-if-my-life-depended-on-it guy? Hmm, that's a tough one…
     
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  13. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. People are really underestimating Baer’s handspeed and chin.
     
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  14. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Williams was flattened in 3 and 2 rounds respectively. And it's debatable whether or not he had more power than Williams any way.
     
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  15. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Great chin,average handspeed,and right hand which was telegraphed.The way a prime Baer capitulated to Louis does not augur well for him against Sonny.
     
    mcvey, Apr 13, 2020
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