Could there be a more true champion than Dillian Whyte in boxing right now?

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  1. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Not worth a shot at Wilder apparently because he's a 'slugger' and 'not skilled'.....

    Yet Wilder is worth a shot at Joshua......Despite being 'not skilled'.
     
  2. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Prime Pulev would have outboxed him. Now he beats washed up pulev, but whyte isnt to outbox.
     
  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Let's be clear beating Ortiz wouldn't of made Whyte the mandatory it would of made him the 2nd Mandatory, whatever that is supposed to be. With Wilder not facing a mandatory for almost 3 years into his reign, we all know being a 2nd mandatory wouldn't of meant a thing. Wilder might be retired before Whyte got his 2nd mandatory shot.

    As for Pulev, Breazeale didn't want it, Miller didn't want it either, we'll have to wait and see if Hughie wants it. But so far all quiet on the Pulev front.

    Whyte/Chisora 2 would be amazing but Whyte isn't looking for a domestic clash he's looking for belts. Plus with Chisora now back in the mix he might be trying to get a title shot of his own rather than face Whyte again.
     
  4. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    The rematch was on the cards after the first fight, which is when he demanded a Mil or something around that for the rematch which is insane. I've no issue with him not doing the fight now, though it would be a lot of fun.

    I hadn't seen anything mentioned about 2nd mandatory. I know he's #1 in the rankings but that of course with the WBC doesn't make you mandatory; all the stuff I'd seen indicated that Whyte-Ortiz was to be sanctioned as a mando fight by the WBC, which would have then been called by them had the AJ fight not happened. If you know of otherwise I'm happy to read it.

    To be clear, I don't blame anyone for not going to Bulgaria to fight Pulev. He's a tricky fight as it is, never mind with home advantage. My issue in this instance is the hyperbole shared by the OP.
     
  5. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hahaha I feel like a **** now. Sorry I had thought you were implying he ducked Pulev!
    My apologies mate

    I think the meaning of the post has gone completely over your heads, you and BB. Ducked Chisora? For a riskier and more meaningful fight in Joseph Parker, as I've already alluded to.. What sense does that make? Ortiz again, was much the same level of risk as Parker, perhaps less in many peoples minds. As for Pulev, its also been addressed by someone else above. The fight would have gotten him nowhere in terms of the goal of a world title.

    The references to his level of opponent, where are you getting this from what I have said. I have even started my post with "I'm not saying he's the best", I'm talking strictly about the, he wants to fight and I will fight attitude that I think Whyte has certainly displayed thus far in his career. None more so than the weekend just past. Hence my time of posting.

    ^^
     
  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Whyte’s so damned good — or his resume is — and he’s such a big draw in the UK, why doesn’t his promoter, who happens to also be AJ’s promoter — give Whyte a rematch with AJ next?
     
  7. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    He ducked the rematch after the first fight. I understand him not taking it after beating Parker.
    Pulev was an IBF eliminator, so it would have gotten him in line for a world title shot, unless the IBF since changed their tune.
    I'm in the camp that maintains Ortiz was way riskier than Parker. Matchroom obviously felt Parker would sell better, which is probably true.
     
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    A statement on the governing body's website read: "April 2018 WBC orders a final elimination bout between Dillian White (sic) and Luis Ortiz for the second mandatory of the division."

    Dillian Whyte says he feels 'betrayed' by the WBC after he was denied a mandatory title fight with WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder.

    The Brixton man was this week ordered to fight Luis Ortiz for the right to become the second mandatory challenger for Wilder, despite his current ranking as the No 1 contender, and reports suggest that American rival Dominic Breazeale will receive the next title shot from the WBC.

    http://www.skysports.com/boxing/new...m-a-mandatory-title-fight-with-deontay-wilder

    WBC have very recently changed their mind saying winner of Whyte/Ortiz would be first mandatory ahead of Breazeale. Probably saw how big a draw Whyte is now that he's a PPV fighter and wants a cut of that.

    But this still gives Wilder the opportunity to fight Breazeale as a voluntary.
     
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  9. DoubleJab666

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    As far as limited British sluggers go, Chisora deserves the accolade you describe more than Whyte does: Vitali in Germany, Fury x2, a prime-ish David Haye, Takam, Pulev in Germany, Helenius while he was still unbeaten and in Helsinki, and of course, Whyte at Matchroom HQ (resident judges included). And he stole the show on Saturday night...
     
  10. PaddyGarcia

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    Whyte-Breazeale would be a Hell of a fight actually. Not that it needs to happen
     
  11. Walter Sobchak

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    Whyte is a real life bad man. He doesn't play or suffer fools. He can see through bull**** better than anyone. His heart and balls are huge. Big respect to the bodysnatcher.
     
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  12. LD Boxer-Puncher

    LD Boxer-Puncher Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No doubting that it would apply to Dereck Chisora also, the reason why I'm not talking about him is because I'm talking about someone who would be a deserving world champion due to that attitude.

    And its obviously far from realistic for Dereck Chisora to become a world champion at this stage
     
  13. GlaukosTheHammer

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    No morries bud, it's the nature of the forum.
     
  14. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks, saves me time sorting through old articles.