Could Tyson Fury become the best British Heavyweight?

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  1. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    Best british heavyweight EVER I meant, messed up the title.

    If he -

    1) Beats Joshua twice
    2) Beats the likes of Usyk to get the WBO after
    3) 10 title defences, including some top opponents.

    I think doing that + being as good as he obviously is would make him a decent shout for the best british heavyweight ever.

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    So

    1) What does have to do to be considered the best British Heavyweight
    2) What would have to do to be considered the best ever?
     
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  2. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    What´s the significance of title defenses? Opposition is what matters.
    If he keeps beating the top ranked guys then sure, his title defense count would be a nice boost for his legacy.
    Wilder had 10 defenses. He will not go down as a a great champion for it. Not even as one of the best American champions. Because of the weak opposition he faced.
    He did fight Ortiz and Fury twice, but the only other guy he fought who was in the top 10, was Stiverne. One of the weakest heavyweight champs in modern boxing.

    But yes, Fury has the opportunity to go down as the best British Heavyweight champion. Hell, he might retire as the best Brit ever. If he can beat Joshua, Usyk and other good opponents.
     
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  3. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    If he beats AJ and 3 other legit "top 5" prime heavyweights convincingly over the next 2 or 3 years, and doesn't lose, he's clearly #1.
     
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  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Personally, I don't think he'll have the longevity with the quality over time to overhaul Lewis. It's worth remembering that Lewis has his own generational wins - past-prime Holyfield and Vitali. There's a lot to overhaul there. That said, there will be arguments if some of the predictions/conditions in this thread are fulfilled.
     
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  5. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    It’s possible but as noted above I don’t think he’ll have a career length that allows for it to happen
     
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  6. KingKanelo

    KingKanelo Member banned Full Member

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    No

    Lennox Lewis will always be the goat. Lets compare resumes. - Not even close! Also Fury is a PED cheat
     
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  7. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury will surpass Lewis

    He won't get rolled over by a Rahmen.
     
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  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    He wont have the career span to surpass him tbh, nor the quality of opposition
     
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  9. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If he starts fighting frequently and top tier fighters than he could surpass Lewis. However, he rarely even fights and he is not that young.
     
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  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lennox sets a high bar.

    I am a huge Fury fan, but I'll not forget all the good years with the Pugilist Specialst, Lennox the Lion Claudius Lewis.
     
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  11. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Nobody here is accounting for Fury's MMA career 4 years from now.
     
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  12. Decker

    Decker Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Quick answer to the OP.

    He's close to it now. Of course LL set a high standard.
     
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  13. Jennifer Love Hewitt

    Jennifer Love Hewitt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It will be a tough order to surpass Lennox Lewis.
    It could be done, but not likely given Fury's age and that he isn't a normally particularity active fighter. He'd have to ramp up his schedule or fight well into his 40's.
     
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  14. nervousxtian

    nervousxtian Trolljegeren Full Member

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    Lewis fights were usually entertaining. So fury will never be better.
     
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  15. snake33

    snake33 Active Member Full Member

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    Tyson Fury could win 50 -0 & some people will still show the video of him uppercutting himself.
    He is the best right now.
    Lennox Lewis was the best of his era despite two blips that he recovered by rematch wins.
    And yet some people claim Vitali won or was over the hill despite being 6 years younger.
    BTW, Lewis beat Vitali and would have KO'd Wladimir.
     
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