Could V. Klitschko get Robbed in Poland?

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  1. Beatle

    Beatle Sheer Analysis Full Member

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    Really? Adamek beat Steve Cunningham, whom Haye ducked and who is now the n.1 CW in the world.

    Adamek has fought much better competition than Vitali. Who is Vitali's best win? Fatboy Chris Arreola? Compare that to Cunningham.

    Adamek can say he's beaten the best fighters available at CW, and he has beaten Chris Arreola too.
     
  2. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep, too many people seriously underestimate Adamek´s resume. Save for Lennox, I defy people to find a more accomplished fighter on Vitali´s resume. There ain´t none. Adamek´s accomplishments, p4p, are at least as good as Vitali´s, considering the incredible weight jumps and the quality of opponents along the way. Considering he´s now fighting guys who are typically 60lbs+ then where he started his pro career, that demands some damn awe and respect.
     
  3. DoubleEdge

    DoubleEdge The king of Kings banned

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    That's why I love vitali he's great. So calm yet simmering underneath with unrivaled rage
     
  4. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    The only thing they can rob him off is a KO victory... if they throw in the towel too early.
     
  5. rapidfire

    rapidfire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Too many Polish fanboys here i guess.

    It doesn´t matter which resume Adamek had at lightheavy and cruiser. Heavyweight is a whole different thing. And he just ain´t no heavyweight, period.

    Just tell me which skill of Adamek should give Vitaly problems ?

    He doesn´t punch very hard, he couldn´t even stop Michael Grant, nor Kevin McBride (who was stopped by Axel Schulz !!!!)

    He´s not exceptionally fast, neither with his fists nor with his feet. He just has a slight speed advantage, way too low to overcome that size and height disadvatage.

    He has a lot of heart though, but that does only help him to evtually last the distance.

    As for Cunningham. He is totally different to Klitschkos. Although Cunningham has the physical advantage that allows him to fight in a Klitschko manner (huge reach), he doesn´t use that advantage good enough, probably cause his jab doesn´t have the Klitschko´s power.
     
  6. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Instead of ¨Vitali¨ insert ¨Arreola¨ and your synopsis looks identical to what a lot of people were writing then. The point is Adamek posses certain intangibles (experience in adversity, toughness, ring IQ) that kept him successful in this game for a long time, despite coming in as an underdog several times already.
     
  7. Stinky gloves

    Stinky gloves Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If he is not exceptionally fast with his fist and feet then how is that possible he won 40+ fights, won titles a few times and is unbeaten at HW so far? How is that possible he overcame the size differences against golota and Arreola and height disadvantage against Grant? Did he cheated so far to win all these fights?

    Following with your logic Vitaly been stopped by Byrd who is much shorter than Adamek .. don't you think your logic is just plain wrong?

    Styles makes fights and there is obvious choice that Vitaly may easily dominate and KO Adamek but saying that Adamek is complete unworthy piece of **** is just not fair ... if that was the true he would not be #3 HW right now.
     
  8. rapidfire

    rapidfire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You do not really compare Arreola and Grant with Vitali, or do you ?
    Both Grant and Arreola are tall, but they can´t fight tall. Both Klitschkos are great in fighting tall. It´s very hard to get to them. And imo Adamek, although he is fast, is not quick enough to capitalize on his speed.

    Again, bad comparison, Byrd is a slickster, a defensive master, who will make you miss with his great upper body movement. Now tell me that Adamek is a slickster ? Adamek is an offensive fighter, who is able to throw a lot of leather. I can´t see him avoiding all those Vitaly jabs.

    Yep, styles make fights and imo Adamek is completely wrong style to cause Vitaly some problems, we will see though. ´

    And for Adamek being completely unworthy peace of **** - i´ve never said that. Adamek is a very likeable guy and he really has some balls. I will off course root for him and i would love it, if i was completely wrong.
     
  9. rapidfire

    rapidfire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Comparing Vitaly with Arreola doesn´t make me think that you know your boxing, sorry.
     
  10. Kojiro

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    There have been many iffy decisions in Poland but I'd say not more than in other European countries such as Germany etc.

    Comparing Wlodarczyk-Palacios to Adamek-Klitschko is laughable. True, bad decision, Wlodarczyk also received a couple of gifts earlier in his career. However he is involved with a crook promoter known for this kind of bull****.

    In Adamek-Klitschko different people are involved and the scale of the fight is completely different. There is no ****ing way they would dare to try to rob him. As a Pole I'm completely confident in a fair score.
     
  11. lzolnier

    lzolnier Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I did not directly compare the two, are you dyslexic or something? I said your rationale for why Vitali would most certainly win is similar to what people where pointing out before the Adamek - Arreola fight. Size, power etc etc. Granted those advantages are more pronounced in this fight, but trust me, Vitali is not unbeatable. He went 10 rounds with Sosnowski ffs and save for the one punch , did not look sharp in that round versus Solis.
     
  12. Brickhaus

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    I doubt it will be close enough for vitali to get robbed, but the possibility is there. That said, the officials will be appointed by the sanctioning body, not by Poland, so that makes it less likely.

    The only prominent fights I can remember where someone went to Poland and the fight was close, the Polish fighter won every one of them. Jackiewicz-Rodriguez, Jackiewicz-Zaveck I, Wlodarczyk-Cunningham I, Wlodarcyyk-Palacios, Wlodarczyk-Robinson, etc. Even Cunningham-Wlodarczyk II, which Cunningham dominated, ended up being only a majority decision. That said, there's never been a fight of this magnitude in Poland before.
     
  13. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Name one fight in Poland where the non-Pole should have won and the scoring wasn't iffy. I can't. And I just named seven where the scoring was iffy.
     
  14. pat19

    pat19 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    excuses already? Adamek UD!