Could Victor intentionally butted Floyd to get out of the fight?

yeah really good point. as what robert garcia said, victor is a quitter.

the question is when will he mature? when he longer has a career? i'm beginning to think ortiz is another version of zab judah.

 

The dude was frustrated because the shots he was Landing didnt phase Floyd! PBF was smiling, shaking his head. Ortiz keep getting hit! PBF is a surgeon in the ring!

 

it was a blatant foul done out of frustration, and in hopes of changing the fight in his way.

I think people were surprised that Ortiz's left was landing on Mayweather, and it was faster than he had planned on. But in the same token, none of those lefts put Mayweather in any danger.

3rd round on, Mayweather's knack of beating an opponent to the punch, catching him on the way in, started to deter Ortiz from going in. Then he started to linger in No Man's Land. I knew this was the start of the end for him already. Even worse, Mayweather started to gain good confidence and started to walk Ortiz down. A pressure fighter IS NOT suppose to go backwards....

Would have been an inevitable bad ending for Ortiz.

To tell you the truth, i was surprised that Mayweather was as fast as he's always been, and actually stronger than he's ever been. He was excellent in the pocket and didnt shy away when Ortiz closed up the distance.

 

no, i dont think so. Floyd has always been solid in the pocket. I think it was part the game plan and also point in showing that Floyd wasnt going to run or fade from pressure, but he'd stand his ground instead. I think they were counting on Ortiz's team in believing Floyd would use alot of footwork to evade the pressure.

 

He did it a few times for sure..

This is what I thought... Floyd smiling shaking his head probably frustrated Victor... He talked all that about when he lands his opponents drop but he wasn't getting to Floyd much, and when he DID it didn't seem to do much damage. Sure he pressured Floyd and probably made him uncomfortable at times, but he was taking a number of shots and I doubt he would have made it through 12 at that rate. He got caught up, and I think got desperate... Don't think he was trying to end it with that headbutt though... More like a super combo to try and bust Floyd's face up.. Dumb as hell but ehh..

 

Victor had the right strategy. Who cares if Cortez took off a point? He was roughing Floyd up and bothering him.

But I think that it was the wrong strategy to be apologetic like that. What an idiot!

 

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Ortiz was hurt at the end of rd 3, this is why Mayweather tried to jump on him at the beginning of rd 4. Ortiz seemed to weather that storm though and had some momentum by the time of the head butt. The timing doesn't seem right for him to try and get a way out of the fight but who knows.

I think the head butting was apart of his strategy the whole time but his execution was horrible.

 

1. I think he was looking for a way out. This doesn't have to be a planned outcome rather it could be an emotional moment brought on by the magnitude of the event. Which would explain why he was beaming after the fight. He got a way out and he got a plausible excuse to why he lost: the whole "If he hadn't cheap-shotted me, I would have come back and knocked him out" line.

2. Of course he would ask for a rematch! If you're going to claim that you would have won save the "foul", if somebody asks if you'd want the fight again, surely you can't say no. He had to save face. If Mayweather doesn't go for a rematch, Ortiz can always claim that he could only beat him through a cheap shot. If he does get the rematch, he gets a huge pay day.

3. I also don't buy the notion that his behaviour could be explained away by being in shock. Maybe his in-the-ring behavior might be erratic but what about the press conference behavior? What about his AFTER PARTY behavior?

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It is clear that he couldn't handle the pressure of the event. The obvious foul followed by the bizarre behavior during and after the fight (waaay after) shows that he just did not handle the situation well. That's my take anyway.

 

If there was anytime for him to possible be thinking of a way out of the fight it was when he got knocked down. As he could always claim that he only lost because of a cheap shot and not because he got his ass kicked.

In his next fight he will claim Mayweather had to cheap shot me to beat me or something to promote the fight.

 

Yes, but its hard to tell since Victor was having his best moment in the fight before the headbutt. No one knows, but him. A rematch not outta tge question as long as is its done AFTER Mayweather-Pacquiao.