Could Wright-Williams turn out to be another Hopkins-Pavlik??

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  1. fatdrunkenslob

    fatdrunkenslob Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had him beating Vargas as well as Taylor. He lost to Hopkins but not by as much as the scorecards showed. Wright's optimum weight is at 160 where he is very strong. He is capable of throwing 1000 punches a fight especially against a weaker puncher like Williams. Age and inactivity could be the only elements that cause his downfall so if Paul wins chances are he will outwork him for a close decision.
     
  2. heart

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    Quit getting so emotional Bigreg, be a man. Wow I wonder if your blind love for Hopkins has something to do with you being from philly.

    That being said I am a huge hopkins fan but even if you look at the hopkins-wright fight it was a damn near sloppy draw. You can't say that Hopkins won decisively and you also can't say "Winky was so distrought that he went missing for almost two years" LOL. What are you Wright's shrink?

    Truth is Winky doesn't get the recognition that he deserves, especially considering he's changed his style to be more crowd pleasing pressure fighter later in his years while hopkins turn into a strictly defensive type fighter who can't even look you in the eye when he throws a punch.
     
  3. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Some good observations. One other advantage I would add for Wright is that we have already seen Williams outboxed by a Southpaw. The straight left can't miss, and Williams is going to be coming forward all night long. I can see Williams eating Wright's shots consistently in this one.

    I haven't thought about this one much, but that I am, I feel fairly confident in Wright. There were a number of good correlations drawn between this fight and Hopkins vs. Pavlik. The difference I could state is just that Wright is not as good as Hopkins, but he is still extremely crafty. The only thing working against Wright here is his age and inactivity.
     
  4. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopkins vs. Wright was most definitely a decisive win for Hopkins. There is no dispute in this fight.

    Wright getting recognition or not is irrelevant here. He is not as good as Hopkins, never was, despite having a lot of upside at his best.
     
  5. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    I agree with all of this. **** i doubt anybody south of David Haye (and even he better watch his ass) could handle the Hopkins that showed up for Pavlik (12 rounds of pure energy, 8 punch combo's, just flat out BLAZIN'-----and not the 1 or 2 punch and hold, 8 punches a round like he did against Calz and JT.)

    Man, even though it is my favorite fighter gettin' just smoked in there, that perfomance that night by Hops is one of the best I've ever seen by anybody- EVER. (Hops said so too) I think it was round 8 or 9 Hops was hittin Pav with some shits (I don't think we can call it a Bolo Punch, but he was whirlin' his hand and winding up) that was just ****in' tee-ing off on my boy.:lol: I'm proud as ever of Pavlik for being able to just stand up to 12 rounds of that kind of boxing brilliance with out caving or quiting on the stool.
     
  6. heart

    heart Active Member Full Member

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    Just because a win isn't disputed doesn't mean it was a decisive win. A decisive win is one where there is absolutely no question as to how the rounds went. The winky-hopkins fight was one of the hardest fights to judge. Both guys looked like **** and rarely landed anything clean. Letterman scored it what....1 round for Hopkins. At the end of the fight I honestly (as others I have talked to) didn't really know how the judges were going to score it.
     
  7. heart

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    Man I agree it was poetry in motion but it wasn't 12 rounds of pure energy. By the 11th hopkins started holding quite a bit I think he was even deducted a point. I don't know if he should have been deducted but there was a time in the fight when he started grabbing quite a bit.
     
  8. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Blind love? I've been watching the man fight for years. There is nothing blind about my assessment of Hopkins. The man is a legend. Winky is good fighter in his own right, but he's not Hopkins.

    What did Hopkins say before the fight? He said Winky would go missing after he was through with him. And what happened? That's right, Winky went into the witness protection program. He still sees a shrink once a week in order to deal with the nightmares he has about Hopkins.

    It sure looked like he was looking into Pavlik's eyes as he was whooping his ass all over the ring. Stop being a hater and give the Living Legend is respect. Don't try to downgrade him by comparing him to mere mortals like Winky Wright.:yep
     
  9. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    He DAMN NEAR took Pav out in the 12th. They both got deducted 1 point a piece, both calls seemed like bull **** too because no warnings had been given prior.

    Sorry my friend, but I will not accept that Mr. Hopkins did not have FIRE in him for the full 12.

    Like I say above, I'm damn proud to be a Pavlik fan to see for him at this stage of his career, to be able to stay in there for 12 with that kind of brilliant fury with out quitting on his stool, or just going down.
     
  10. heart

    heart Active Member Full Member

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    First of all, all your comments have no substance. "He is a living legend....I've been watching him for years....Hopkins said blah blah blah before the fight". You know what shut the **** up and show me a little knowledge and some class - and maybe I'll respond in the same way.

    I'm not being a hater I'm being rational. Hopkins is top 10 favourite fighters of all -time. I'm more of a fan of hopkins than I am of Wright. But I'm sorry you need to remove your dick from hopkins mouth because his talking seems to be chewing your nuts so hard, it is making you a cretin, obnoxious fool.

    And again quit being so emotional I am not downgrading Hopkins. Look at his recent fights, he fights with his head down, like he's afraid to get hit in the chin - pure fact. Now look at Winky's recent fights where he actually brings the fight to his opponent. Don't even bother responding because its obvious your boyfriend just cheated on you and you are in no state to talk like real men.
     
  11. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    There's plenty for me to show you seeing as you don't seem to have any. Saying Winky Wright is as technically sound as Hopkins shows just how little you know.

    No need for all the homo talk. I don't want to hear about your typical Saturdays with your boyfriend.

    When someone is being emotional, they tend to resort to vulgar language and childish insults. And that's exactly what you've been doing. It seems like you need to take your own advice.

    Did this happen against Pavlik?

    Real men don't resort to homo talk and childish name calling when they don't have a point. You need to grow up and stop acting like a child.
     
  12. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If no one is disputing a decision, that is a decent measure of it being decisive.
     
  13. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My oh my. I've now heard it all. A fighter is a coward because he tucks his chin. That's also called "being smart".
     
  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    We'll have to wait and see what Winky has left. The version of Wright that held JT to a draw beats Williams comfortably, but who knows if that version can still be summoned?
     
  15. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Let's just call Winky 'well rested'.