Could WW Maywether have ever beaten Montreal Duran

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  1. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don' t think so

    Duan by UD

    Duran was so focused that night.

    He would outwork and outmuscle Floyd.

    Floyd's defense and overall smarts would enable him to last the distance but he just wouldn't match Duran's work rate.
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you want a great rebuttal to your bulls hit you might want to Google and get Howard Lederman's viewpoint on this topic. He feels that Mayweather's brittle hands would be a huge factor in this fight and Mayweather wouldn't be able to keep Duran from mauling him. But l've long learned that posters will always believe what they want to believe and after posting on these sites for 15+ years the number of posters who actually have changed their minds can be counted on one hand. And l have yet to see Duran ever change his style because of him fearing he'd get knocked out. He was always more than willing to go down on his shield if necessary.
     
  3. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    The thing that some of the younger folks who really never saw Duran don`t understand is that Mayweather is gonna have a lot of trouble hitting Duran. Ofcourse FM had/has great defense but Duran could make you miss coming forward. He was able to roll and counter punch at a level that was uncommon.

    Breaking it down both men at their best it really isn`t a good matchup for Floyd Mayweather. Duran had trouble with movers? LOL but Mayweather isn`t a mover. He likes to stay in the pocket and block and roll. So already he is in range for one of the quickest and powerful right hand leads of all time in boxing. Duran could lead with it or he could counter with it.

    FM doesn`t have a significant height advantage over Duran, something that bothered him in the higher weight classes. So he wants to lay inside with Duran? Getting his body tore up and dealing with a master of inside fighting. It would be a bad situation. Duran`s attack was non stop and relentless. You think Floyd is gonna land a couple of right hands and Duran is gonna stop punching? Can Mayweather keep up with the pace Duran would set? These are questions FM would have to answer. Needless to say he would be the one in unchartered territory.

    Anybody that thinks I`m overating Duran or not being fair to Mayweather just go on Youtube and look up Roger Mayweather/Roberto Duran. He may know something about his own nephew who he has trained. Listen to what he says about Duran and how easy that fight would be..:good
     
  4. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    If you were trying to make a case for Mayweather bringing up Castillo`s name probably wasn`t the smartest move you could make. Not to mention Maidana.

    It`s a mythical matchup but if this fight ever could take place Floyd Mayweather would be the one facing something he had never seen before not Duran. Could Floyd raise his game? maybe..hard to say. He woud have to dig awfully deep.
     
  5. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    It`s quite possible that Benitez beats Floyd as well just differently than Duran would beat him. You can`t tell me with any degree of certainty that Mayweather would outbox Wilfredo Benitez. The point is we don`t know because FM didn`t fight champions on this level. Maybe he would wait till Benitez was shot later in is career.
     
  6. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A younger version of him at Welterweight- say between 2007-2009 could've absolutely beaten Duran.

    I personally thought the fight was always a 50-50 one regardless of weight class. It all depends on who can dictate the pace and style during the fight.

    I always look back to how Leonard fought Duran in their 2nd fight and thought Mayweather could evoke the same style, probably even better than Leonard given Floyd has better movement than SRL did. Ray never hurt Duran in that fight and I'd imagine FLoyd wouldn't be able to hurt him either but if he stayed in perpetual motion, threw off a quick flurry and continued to fight off his backfoot, he could've frustrated Duran in the same manner that leonard did.

    2 years after that fight, another defensive minded fighter in Benitez also beat Duran- I believe that was a JMW bout though. I never favored Mayweather against Hearns or Leonard since they're way too big for him, but Duran is closer to his size and also started at the same division Floyd did (SFW.) I truly think that would be a 50-50 fight. FLoyd's height and reach advantage would help him greatly in the match.
     
  7. Vanboxingfan

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    Damn spell check screws me again. Anyway l'm done.
     
  8. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Those type of fighters didn't fight in the Mayweather era, so your point is moot.

    When he was younger and square in his prime, what fighters between 130-140 lbs would've been favored against him? Is it his fault that there's a lack of ATG talent that's campaigning in his era? He can only fight the guys that are available to fight him.

    The last time I remember him being an underdog was against CHico Corrales. he was around a 3-1 underdog for that match. After he manhandled Diego, what fighter between SFW and JWW (3 divisions,) would've been favored against him? He never fought Freitas or Casamayor at LW, but I seriously doubt either man would've been favored.

    He never fought Kostya but that was more of an issue of Kostya being a peak 140 lb guy when FLoyd was still at 130 and they also fought on different networks. WOuld Kostya have been favored in that fight?

    He's fought pretty much everyone there was to fight and I don't think he was an underdog in any match since the Chico fight. I think it's more of a testament to how great of a fighter he is and unfortunately the lack of competition for him during his era. I mean the other ATG fighter of his time got outclassed badly by him. What else can he do to prove his worth?
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    Plenty of bums for sure, but what is impressive is that he ruled the division with an iron fist for 6 odd years.

    For the topic at hand none of this stuff saves Mayweather. If it was Mayweather he was stepping up to fight instead of SRL he would have beaten him, convincingly. SRL is a level above Mayweather. Mayweathers best hope of beating one of the big 4 would be Benitez as he's more of a counter puncher and doesn't hit near as hard as most of the other 3.
     
  10. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather pfp at 130 was every bit as good as Leonard or better.
     
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    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mayweather would beat Benitez because he was better than him. Corrales at 130 was every bit as respected as Benitez was when he fought Duran. You just rate Benitez artificially high because...wait for it...he beat Duran.
     
  12. Gannicus

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    This is one of the worst posts I've ever read. There's nothing wrong with you thinking Mayweather > Benitez, but everything else was awful.
     
  13. Bokaj

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    Yeah, I'd definitely give him a chance. He'd have to extend himself probably more than he's ever done, though, and fight a better fight than he did against Castillo and Maidana in the first fights.
     
  14. N_ N___

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    Who was higher pfp at the time of the fights, Benitez or Corrales? What were Floyd's odds?
     
  15. JohnThomas1

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    Er Duran was actually Benitez's last ever notable win. His legend was forged well prior to Duran.

    Around the time he beat Duran many experts gave him a decent chance of moving up again and outboxing Hagler for the Middleweight championship of the world.

    Corrales was never close to as respected as Benitez was at the times mentioned.