Couldn't possibly have existed how they are.

Weight lifting doesn`t increae speed it hinders it, look at Fury compared to AJ.

 

Not exactly..Muscle when combined with the right type of training, for explosiveness & maintaining flexibility, might make you faster, approaching a natural limit without PEDs.

Wilder is 3" taller than Bolt, but you are more off with the comparison of their weight.
The most you see Bolt listed at is 207 lbs. or 94 kilograms.
Wilder at his lightest when fighting was 212 & a 1/2, but he usually fights in the 220's & has been slightly heavier.

 

Wilder is too light for his height, his legs are thinner than Bolt`s.
Real name Deontay Leshun Wilder
Nickname(s) The Bronze Bomber
Weight(s) Heavyweight
Height 6 ft 7 in (201 cm)

Full name Usain St Leo Bolt
Nickname(s) Lightning Bolt
Nationality Jamaican
Born 21 August 1986 (age 34)
Sherwood Content, Jamaica
Height 1.95 m (6 ft 5 in)

 

Those are single examples. What were their capacities before training? How did excercise effect that/ What type of training did they do? How much did they develop, & how?
You might as well site numerous examples where particular woman are taller than individual mean, & conclude that they are taller than men overall.
It is a widely discredited, ancient myth that lifting must slow you.
It is just as undiscerning to say the opposite.

It depends on what was your strength before you started. How much musle did you add. Did you also train for flexibility? How about training to develop explosive movements? Did you do just heavy lifts you could only move slowly, or try to move as fast as possible, say with having a lighter day weekly where you essentially "throw" the weights.

Mark you do not know the basics of this matter. Such as what kind of weight training tends to do what.
Many boxers have lifted & many got faster.

 

It`s about getting into positions to land fast which needs constant drills never mind all this weight lifting bull, Ali didn`t need it and he was the fastest heavyweight ever.

 

Sorry Mark you are completely wrong about these things.
Clenbuterol is in no way in the class of drugs known as steroids.
Neither is HGH-which while tends to help lower body fat, the chief effect & main reason athletes & weightlifters take it is to increase muscle mass, strength, recovery from exercise, & performance.

Boxers who are below HW tend to want to be pretty lean-to be strong for their size + help with speed & endurance-but not as lean as possible-otherwise they would normally be under 5% bodyfat like bodybuilders in competition tend to be-& dehydrated during matches, since that would make them "smaller". But some body fat helps with energy & its reserves in an extended contest.

HWs need not make weight maximums, so what balance of body fat is best varies dependiong upon boxing style, such as considering how much speed or strength is valuable, & varies strategically depending upon the demands of who you next fight.

Please check out the hyperlinks to learn the basic facts about the above PEDs, thank you Mark.

 

You could not dispute any of my specific regarding the necessity of examining what types of weight training are valuable for what-in part depending upon what your body & physical capacities are before starting, & what you may or may not want to achieve.

Why throw in the red herring of needing constant drills? That should be done regardless of other exercises.
Ali did not need weightlifting-at least near the fastest HW ever, if say Patterson was faster Ali was likely fastest pound for pound...
But he was a physical phenomena, & he gained much muscle naturally between winning the Olympics as a LHW (same day weigh in) & his peak at a lean 210-215 lbs.

Babe Ruth may have been able to hit the ball further than anyone, & when overweight, without modern training, & with a terrible diet.
That does not mean that many others would bat as well as even they were later able to achieve-including for distance-without specific exercises & weight training.
Or that having very heavy bats like Ruth did is as good for home runs or even distance as a lighter bat that you can generate more bat speed with, that more than compensates for the greater force a heavier bat accelerates a ball at.

Mark you are about half a century behind the times in believing that all weight training, regardless of the method & speed it is executed & how much muscle is added & what it is combined with-is harmful. Or must be bad for speed.

That is as uninformed as the opposite extreme, that all lifting regarless of what type & what are the physical results, must be good!

 

I think this is the key element absent from long ago. It has to have helped the men that at one time were considered “too big” for boxing.

 

Make no mistake fury lifts

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Yes, but several things are wrong with this video. And the comments reflect it.

1) That was neither 250 KG nor a deadlift.Folks ad up the weights by color + the bar, it is somewhat less than the weight claimed.
It is not "dead', not off the floor. It is a rack pull-it gets easier the further you have it off the floor.
2) His form is horrible.
He did not use, much legs or sink his hips. It was closer to a stiff legged (Romanian) DL.

Mainly his back is rounded the whole time instead of having his lower back arched.
This is a large strain of the spine/lumber discs & dangerous.

Who knows if he was advised on the lift or did it regularly. But if he was coached, that is a form of malpractice.

 

I pasted my reply after googling about PED`s.

 

All speed is in boxing is transitioning your weight correctly and getting in positions fast enough to land, it`s a knack, Hector Camacho was fast and didn`t lift weights, Pernell Whitaker, Meldrick Taylor Amir Khan, I could go on and on.

 

But you were completely WRONG about calling Clenbuterol & HGH steroids.
You said you looked it up-now that I have provided you endless hyperlinked information about what class of drugs they are, why would you not admit the obvious instead of saying you looked it up?

That is ostentatiously avoiding the issue of taking responsibility for making basic mistakes.
Your credibility on the issue is nil if you both do not know the basic facts, get it wrong after looking it up...

And show an almost Trumpian tendency to avoid admitting even a good faith error.

 

You ain’t wrong there,son.

 

Mark you are taking a very basic fact about speed, & absent reason saying this is what "all speed" is about.
No, other things are involved. For example, from whatever position you already are in how quickly you can move involves many factors.
Some are natural & genetic tendencies, such as the amount of fast twitch muscle fibers. Reflexes are largely genetic & these things are relate to age...

I already gave you examples where you can see the obvious-some can be fast without weight training, others can do it-especially if incorrectly, such as not for fast, explosive motions, all very heavy weights-& not be fast.

You might as well say weight training does not even make you stronger, because you can find many people who are strong without doing it. Although most all did some labor that involved moving heavy things that effected much of the results of resistance training.

It is just not rational to cherry pick examples of something & use that to extrapolate that a particular training does not work.
Again you might as well point to many woman taller-or heavier or stronger-than many or the average man, not consider the satistical facts, everyone's genetics...And conclude woman are bigger & stronger than men. smh.


Once again, your undifferentiated position that all types of weight training is useless for speed &bactually slows you down completely ignores the evidence & particulars of how one lifts, to what degree, what you are like to begin with...

You are stuck in a stone-age faith that lifting will make you muscle bound & be harmful.
All science about the issue indicated otherwise.

You have faith in an ancient, baseless superstition.