Counting BOTH their amateur runs AND pros, Who was more impressive? Usyk Or mayweather?

The thread title is literally: "Counting BOTH their amateur runs AND pros, Who was more impressive? Usyk Or mayweather"

Usyk is less impressive than Mayweather in everything boxing related capacity.

 

Usyk is more impressive than Mayweather in everything boxing related capacity.

See that's what forums are for, opinions and I completely disagree with your opinion.

Mayweather never won no gold medals in the amateurs and wasn't undisputed in any weight classes in the pros, I can't see him being ahead of Usyk.

 

This forum is now flooded people who don't understand what it means to be undisputed.

 

Let me ask you directly: How do you define impressive? Is it just about counting wins, or is it about the quality and difficulty of those achievements?
Because personally, and I'd argue most fans feel this way, watching a fighter consistently take the hard road, embrace massive risks against bigger and stronger opponents, fight in hostile territory, and still succeed like Usyk did in winning Olympic Gold and then unifying against giants as a pro, is fundamentally more impressive than a career built on meticulously minimizing every possible risk, no matter the final win tally.
One path is about conquering monumental challenges, amateur and pro. The other is about masterful risk management. There's a difference in what most would perceive as truly impressive.

 

I LIKE Usyk more but Floyd was obviously a far superior p4p talent fighting superior competition in weight classes where fighters tend to be much better technically and athletically.

As for "better for the sport", I get that a lot of people blame Floyd for "killing" boxing etc for various reasons, but he was literally the biggest PPV draw ever and a genuine worldwide star. Pac also wouldnt have become anywhere near the star he was if he hadnt attached his name to Floyd. Usyk is not at that level in terms of generating business and mainstream attention.

 

Mayweather was de facto undisputed as he was clearly the best in several weight classes. Who disputed him? He has far more depth than Usyk with better top wins. There's no case for Usyk
Dominance, edge to Floyd
Top win, edge to Floyd
Resume depth, huge advantage to Floyd

 

No such thing as De Facto undisputed. It's literally an oxymoron.

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But Usyk came up from cruiser. Further, none were as established as Fury was when Usyk beat him. Wlad - the greatest of the victims - was at the start of his reboot and long reign. They're dodgy comparisons.

 

Floyd did a far better job of cleaning out 130 than Usyk did cruiserweight and did a better job at 147 than Usyk at heavyweight.

This isn't an argument that helps Usyk in any way

 

Fury hadn't beat a ranked opponent in more than 2 years and had arguably lost to Ngannou in his prior fight. He then immediately proceeded to retire afterwards. Wlad was in much better form going into the Sanders fight.

Going into the Ruiz fight Joshua had beaten Whyte, Wlad, Parker, and Povetkin. That's roughly equivalent to what Fury has accomplished in his career.

 

The depth point is inarguable as Floyd was around for much longer, but it'll always be brought up how he fought jaded versions of his best guys, not for the sake of blind bashing, but rather because when you fight someone is everything. Some peaks last one, single, fight.

To be consistent with this train of thought, had Floyd taken on a pre-Margarito Cotto and '09 Manny - while I may still find myself shaking my head at his bold claims - they would be far less silly. Squeeze in Paul Williams during a more hectic late noughties schedule...

You see, people bring up a lot of PPV names, but we remembers those names, mostly, because of who they were in their prime.

*HOF means almost nothing today.

 

Conceding these points for the sake of progression, Usyk still came up from cruiserweight.

 

You seem like a fanboy.