Countries That Never Produced An All-Time Great

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  1. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well by literal definition no one was calling him great in 1800.... ;)

    Twenty three people here of sound judgement, between them did not have him in their best 35 fighters. If greatness is to be elite, I would suggest thus Griffo falls short and is merely brilliant.


    But I understand, this is abstract; others may have less strict criterion for greatness, and other sites may have different opinions on a top 35.
     
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  2. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti A Being of Inexplicable Inclinations Full Member

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    I think top 35 P4P is way way too narrow for ATG. It'd exclude many fighters who dominated divisions.
     
  3. Devon

    Devon Active Member Full Member

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    It says as his nationality ‘Canada ‘
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

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    It also says as his birth place 'Hillsborough, Northern Ireland, United Kingdom'.
     
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    SquaredCircle Active Member Full Member

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  6. Greb & Papke 707

    Greb & Papke 707 Member Full Member

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    Have any of the Nordic countries? Because I know they put up the lions share of ATG kickboxers but I can’t think of any great boxer from any of them,
     
  7. red cobra

    red cobra Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  8. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Heard of Barlund, but I think that name is Swedish or Norwegian.

    Aside from Finnish, I also have German and Irish ancestry.
     
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  9. Italian Stallion

    Italian Stallion Member Full Member

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    Cool! Yes! Gunnar is of Swedish heritage but fought under Finland's flag and even made the cover of "The Ring!" Wow, the German and Irish ancestry gives you great boxing forefathers, especially with the Fighting Irish so to speak, so the part of your heritage has definitely produced All-Time Greats! A lot to be proud of there.
     
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  10. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas Boxing Addict Full Member

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  11. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As far as Polish descent, the best one that immediately springs to mind is Tony Zale. I believe I read his surname was actually Zaleski.
     
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  12. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Stanley Ketchel was of Polish descent too.
     
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  13. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I’m not sure that’s accurate. It’s been said he could have been from the south of Ireland too. If I’m not mistaken it’s never been proven. He was very young when he went to Canada but he was definitely born in Ireland.
     
  14. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  15. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ah. Yeah, he wins that contest then.