Countries Whose Boxers Were Robbed The Most In Title Fights?

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  1. Italian Stallion

    Italian Stallion Active Member Full Member

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    Which countries' boxers were robbed many times in title bouts which consequently prevented them from becoming a champion for their country?
     
  2. Italian Stallion

    Italian Stallion Active Member Full Member

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    Thanks for replying. I am referring to world title bouts only, the backgrounds you mentioned are interesting. Can you think of any fighters' names from those cultures as examples?
     
  3. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Eastern European fighters seem to get the shaft the most these days.
     
  4. Italian Stallion

    Italian Stallion Active Member Full Member

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    I would argue they were being screwed even earlier. Andrew Golota, from Poland, was robbed against Byrd and Ruiz in 2004.
     
  5. FighterInTheWind

    FighterInTheWind Active Member Full Member

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    Up until the Internet age, every "away" fighter was assumed to need a knockout in Seoul, Bangkok, or Tokyo; and you certainly needed to win 10 rounds or more to get a decision. And it isn't just bad judging that led to robberies. Referees would frequently dock points for non-fouls on an away fighter; and the home fighters would conversely never be docked points no matter what he did. There were even frequent "mechanical failures" - such as the bell ringing prematurely for the home fighter in trouble (sometimes even close to a minute before it was supposed to); and sometimes the round would go on forever a if foreign fighter was in trouble.

    I just don't think Western fans or even experts understand how corrupt boxing was on East Asia in the olden days. As I've said elsewhere on this forum: Literally every close decision that the home fighter won on East Asia is held to be suspect.

    The damage done to great Asian fighters as a result is criminal, because many people just look up Boxrec and assume "losses" are losses. Consider the case of Fighting Harada, for instance. Sure, Western fans do concede he was great. But how much more would he shine if he were correctly credited with a win in the 2nd Kingpetch fight, as well as the 1st Famechon fight? He will then be undefeated as a flyweight (the Esparza fight was an exploratory fight at bantamweight); and he would be the first man ever to win flyweight, bantamweight, and featherweight. He would make a far greater case to be in all-time pound-per-pound top 10 - where no one in the West puts him now.

    And what about Jung-koo Chang? In the pre-Youtube days, there were actually Western fans who put Gushiken or Yuh ahead of him, because he had more "losses"! Unreal. But with proper judging, he would have been undefeated before his first retirement. A correct decision in his 2nd Chitalada fight would have made him a two-weight champion.
     
  6. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Then there was Robin Reid against Ottke.
     
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  7. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    90 % of fighters against Germans or mock Germans in Germany.
     
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