Crawford beating Gamboa or Walters beating Donaire?

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  1. WildStyle

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    Which is the better win and why? Please consider what Gamboa and Nonito had done in recent years and how these two bouts were actually fought.
     
  2. Leoh

    Leoh Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Crawford beating Gamboa. I don't even follow the other dudes. They weren't able to attract my attention.
     
  3. Jim Jeffries

    Jim Jeffries Ring General banned Full Member

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    I think both wins are overrated.


    I think Crawford beating Gamboa is the better win, though.
     
  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Walters KO Donaire > Crawford KO Gamboa
     
  5. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Gamboa hadn't fought a ranked foe in like 3 years, had only fought twice in those 3 years, and had only ever fought once at 135 which was over a year before.

    Donaire on the other hand was just one division north of 122 where he unified multiple belts and held the lineal title in addition to winning Vetyeka's WBA belt at 126. Yes, the fight was stopped after 4 rounds but the scoring seemed obvious, 38-37, with the difference being Donaire's knockdown of Vetyeka. So you can't say Donaire was undeserving of being a "title holder at 126."
     
  6. WildStyle

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    Why?
     
  7. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Crawford beating Gamboa, because Donaire hadn't done anything in recent years and is noticeably shot.

    Gamboa just hadn't done anything, but he looked damn good.
     
  8. WildStyle

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    But what had Donaire been doing lately? He was getting thoroughly outclassed by Vic before the KO and he got absolutely embarrassed by Rigo. Truth is, he hasn't looked good as of late.
     
  9. CST80

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    Gamboa has looked pretty bad for a few years now, Donaire looked awful last year, they're about even.
     
  10. Boxing Prospect

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    Both are very over-rated and it's disappointing that the American media have them both as being amazing wins.
     
  11. Nonito Smoak

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    Won a 126 belt from Vetyeka earlier this year, who is very good and had dethroned the longest reigning champion in boxing the fight before.

    He was getting beaten by Darchinyan in what was supposed to be his tune up... but since when do we completely dismiss the good shown in an impressive come-from-behind KO? He won, and by KO, even after struggling mightily.

    Gamboa's only victories in the nearly 3 whole years leading to the Crawford fight were over Darley Perez and Michael Farenas. Gamboa won both, but had his share of struggles at times with each of those limited fighters.

    To go back to Gamboa's last victory over a ranked opponent we would have to dig back to September of 2011 when he beat Ponce de Leon at a 127 lb catchweight fight in a cut-shortened one sided decision. In that span, we would then be looking at Donaire's entire 122 pound run which included unifying 2 belts, beating 3 top 10 opponents, and beating the #1 opponent for the vacant lineal title at 122 BEFORE he coughed it up when dominated by Rigondeaux.



    Nicholas Walters ended a nice streak of Donaires'. He was the first opponent to stay on his feet in quite some time against Donaire. Nonito's streak included knockdowns of: Vetyeka, Darchinyan II, Rigondeaux, Arce, Nishioka, Mathebula, and Vazquez Jr, all at 122 and 126, before you get back to the Narvaez fight where Omar stayed on his feet throughout (and lost every single 30 second span of the entire fight).
     
  12. The Long Count

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    Both are slightly overrated wins but I thought Walters had the better win.
     
  13. PIPO23

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    Gamboa slightly. Why? both looked ****e but Donaire has looked worse. He barely eek outs convincing wins. He couldn't even stop narvaez. The word is struggle to put on good performances..
     
  14. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Are you for real right there or just trolling to bait?

    Donaire has a superior resume in the last 4 years (which, apparently, he has been shot for at least half of that time if you believe some) than Gamboa does his whole career...

    Look at Donaires' last couple years and then look at Gamboa's and try to tell me that beating Gamboa at 135 (never top 10 there) is better than beating Donaire at 126 (held title there).
     
  15. elmaldito

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    Crawford beating gamboa was a bigger feat. Gamboa hadn't been beat and was supremely confident. Crawford had to take his will. Taking nothing away from Walters but donaire hasn't been serious for a few fights now. He's been a camera man, husband, and dad. Guy was getting bigtime overweight inbetween fights and lost his hunger. That's why conte dumped him.
    Crawford easy.