Crawford Deadlifting 455 lbs./206 kgs

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  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree no boxer should be training like a powerlifter or a weight lifter or a strong man they don't go together I wasn't saying they did. not sure why you came to that assumption.

    Well if we're being pedantic your body won't grow doing heavy deadlifts unless your in a calorie surplus and progressively overloading. Doesn't matter how much you deadlift if you're in a deficit and not lifting more than you could before.

    If you're saying weights hamper boxing then you need to tell all the elite boxers now who use weights, from Loma to Joshua, to even Fury they are doing it wrong. Boxers with good strength and conditioning coaches will design programs specific to their boxers needs and these training sessions will likely be done in blocks and likely tapered down in camps for a fight as you don't want to be trying to getting stronger in camp you will want to have built that base in strength and power before and using the camp to work on conditioning and technical aspects of boxing.
     
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  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why do you think lifting weights equates to powerlifting? Even when Joshua was at his biggest he never trained like a powerlifter. His training was sports specific he didn't just copy and paste some powerlfiting program and do that and expect that to help his boxing.

    Joshua learned he was too big true but that doesn't mean he ditched the weights, there's video's of him preparing for Pulev this year and lifting weights while looking leaner.
     
  3. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    This is true
    The design is to tear down the muscle and it will grow
     
  4. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    Depends on the amount of weight you are lifting bro.
    You can do high reps low weight just to tone and not build
     
  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I hope you're trolling with the "tone" comment. :lol:
     
  6. Bustajay

    Bustajay Feel the Steel/Balls Deep Full Member

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    :pesas::coleman:
     
  7. Braindamage

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    LOL. His resume may be lacking, but anyone that has 1 iota of boxing knowledge, knows Crawford has world class skills. Weak isn't a way I would describe Crawdaddy. Can you explain why you believe he is weak?
     
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  8. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Not all boxers try to lose weight, some maintain or even try to gain.
    It is a long debunked myth that any lifting, regardless of how you do it or other exercises like stretching, must cause stiffness. Joshua overdid lifting, for Holyfield this & unfortunately PEDS let him become a great HW for a time.
     
  9. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Exactly, well put.
     
  10. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I agree completely, good notes!
    Except there are ways to get larger without progressive overload, there are many ways to increase the total load, reach failure more often, change things up enough, overload other ways like supersets & pre-exhaust & ddop sets...
     
  11. gerryb

    gerryb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    dont tell me you only did that once my man,how many times would you carry 50 kgs up and down?I carry 27 kgs over varying distances but its flat. I find it easy to be honest. Ive stacked 4 high and carried it,thats 108 point something but i cant see over it,its too high. For fun ill do repetitions of 3x27 but then i think im not really getting paid enough and noone really likes a showoff
     
  12. Somali Sanil

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    3-4 times a day, they dragged their feet getting the lift done as it was only us needed at the top. I wouldn’t do it in one go, plenty of breaks
     
  13. gerryb

    gerryb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    good fun bro
     
  14. DerpDiDerp

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    Yes, because powerlifting is not the correct training method for overall athletic performance, and shouldn't be done TOGETHER with something. Powerlifting programs are to train for powerlifting - maximal lifts with large rest periods inbetween, for very short periods of time. That will have SOME effect on certain things, like your vertical or broad jump, but largely will only train your ability to pull from the floor, squat, and press off your chest, obviously.

    The deadlift isnt a magical exercise that says to your body "Grow loads of muscle!". It's one of the largest compound movements there is, yes, but if you lift in the 1 to 3 rep range (mainly the 1s and 2s) then there's barely any hypertrophy. Your increased mass results from the fact it hits so many muscles, not that you explode into a mass monster. Regularly deadlifting during boxing training will of course hamper you, as will doing large amounts of anything else, but that's because of the massive drain to your muscles and central nervous system that comes from strength training.

    If you were to have a proper S&C phase PRIOR to 10 weeks of boxing specific training, you'd be fine. Training for power and explosiveness in the posterior chain, specifically the hips and glutes, has immense carry over to boxing (and pretty much every sport).
     
  15. DerpDiDerp

    DerpDiDerp New Member Full Member

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    Exactly, it's HOW you train.
    People STILL seem to have this idea that anything involving a barbell is "bodybuilding", and that using weight training for cross-training purposes is the devil.