Crawford has made many millions, has his health intact and is a world champ

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tinman, Dec 17, 2022.

  1. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    Crawford himself. They were expecting big numbers at $40 a pop. On a new promotion streaming service. Failing to do so means he has no negotiation power with Spence.

    Fine article on it at eastside

    The fighter that Crawford needs to bring in PPV buys is Errol Spence Jr, but it could be next to impossible to negotiate a fight against him if Bud’s fight against Avanesyan brought in low numbers on BLK Prime PPV.

    For Crawford not to be laughed out of the room with PBC during negotiations, he’s got to come to them with some decent buy totals for the Avaneysan fight. If it’s less than 200,000, you can argue that Crawford’s chances of negotiating a favorable deal with PBC will be low."
  2. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jan 7, 2009
    I’m not seeing it. All we heard from Crawford was “I’m gonna go get this bag real quick”, never saw anything about showing the world what a PPV star he is on an unknown app, against David Avanesyan.
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  3. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

    Jul 19, 2004
    So what you are saying is Crawford is an idiot that signed for a 10 million purse and a new PPV company without so much as think how this would play out in that negotiation?

    Far from it. He thinks he is an 8 figure PPV star. Only company stupid enough was BLK , who threw money away to sign him. This was Bud's way of trying to prove his PPV ability.
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  4. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Dec 2, 2012

    These are two grown men who control their own destiny, so yes, they deserve at least some of the blame.
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  5. SpeedKills

    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jan 7, 2009
    I’d actually say Crawford is smart because he’s not hinging his career on Spence. He made a good sum of money vs Avanesyan and like a lot of people, probably has doubts Spence ever happens. I also don’t see how Spence lowers a zero guarantee and supposedly 35% split even more, unless he really doesn’t want to fight. But these details are upto the fighters and what they’re willing to concede and accept. Many a times one guy has gotten “overpaid” because that’s how much his opponent wanted the fight.
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  6. zelky

    zelky Well-Known Member Full Member

    Sep 4, 2007
    Spence is not in control of his own "destiny" as you put it. Al Haymon is.

    If Al Haymon wanted Spence to fight Crawford, they would have fought 3-5 years ago. It's Haymon who hasn't wanted to risk the belts he owns. Those belts are worth a hell of a lot of money to the promoter.

    Neither fighter is avoiding the fight. If both were in control of their own destiny, the fight would have occurred by now.
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  7. Jacques81

    Jacques81 Boxing Addict Full Member

    Oct 13, 2016
    And I think it's fair to say, his best win is an over the hill, foot out the door Porter??
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  8. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

    Apr 6, 2006
    This is true but he wont be considered as an all time great. He has taken zero risks in return for true greatness. Do i blame him? Maybe not. Health and Wealth are paramount at the end of the day. **** the fans, they are going to help you eat out of a straw when you take a beating and lose your money. But at the same time just be honest, he obviously doesn't really want the Spence bout.
  9. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

    May 29, 2007
    The Spence fight will go a long way to determine his legacy but he is not hungry for it because he knows he will lose. Let’s remind him that Sugar Ray Leonard fought and overcame Hearns who was practically unbeatable at 147 pounds.
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