Crawford is not on the same level as a Canelo

Crawford has no questionable decisions, but he also never fought GGG who was past prime when he fought canelo and still beat clen twice. Anyway at 168 Clen smashes Crawford

 

I had made the catchweight comment w/ Canelo a while back. Pacquiao was out weighed by Margarito by more than 5lbs on the scale and around 20lbs on fight night. Yes, a huge difference in speed and styles...Margarito is no Canelo.... but Crawford wants it (he says) and it would be a HUGE money fight. Crawford probably comes in at low 160's. I say lets see it.

 

It was you who said Lara got robbed by Williams and Hurd (Williams, obviously) and now you're saying its an either/or fight (like the Canelo fight).

Also, it was you who said Crawford hasnt faced anyone as good as Lara, GGG, Floyd, or Bivol. Gamboa was just as good as Lara. Neither lived up to their rightful hype but both had good, solid wins. Gamboa had PDL, Farenas, Solis, and the always entertaining Salido while Lara had Angulo, Trout, and Paul Williams immediately after Sergio literally slept him. Lara also had 2 draws w Canelo and Castano (Canelo fight shouldve been a draw imho).

Gamboa was ducked as much (or more) than Lara. Gamboa begged Mikey for the fight and even went in-ring post fight to challenge Mikey/Rob but they wouldnt take the fight. Similarly, Gamboa had promotional issues w Top Rank then split w them to sign w the TMT promotions only to get zero fights...then signed w 50 cents SMS promotions. A lot of inactivity obviously followed when Gamboa started to age and his style doesnt age (relying on burst speed/acceleration, hand speed, reflexes, etc.).

Lara definitely had a better career post-losses but he stayed active unlike Gamboa. Nonetheless I rate Lara and Gamboa essentially the same. Besides both being Cuban neither lived up to their rightful hype - although a lot of that was because of orchestrated ducking by both TR and GBP (the main promo companies at the time). Lara doesnt have a signature win but has cases against Canelo and Castano. Gamboa, for as inactive and old as he is, showed (at least for me) how basic Tank and Haney are. Tank fought an inactive dude w a torn ACL for 11 rounds and lost a few rounds and Haney did his usual safety first w lots of hugging, per his norm.

You said Crawford aint beat nobody on Canelo's top opposition list...failing to acknowledge Canelo lost 2/3 to an old GGG (at least fight 1), lost to Floyd, and Ive been comparing Gamboa (feel free to substitue Spence or Porter or Postol in Gamboa place) to Lara since Crawford has indeed fought - and not lost to - elite competition.

Bud has had well documented problems getting willing opponents to this day.

 

Canelo vs GGG 3 wasn't a great win. GGG is shot.

He lost twice vs him.

 

It's true one pitbull hook from saul on tbud n Crawford goes night night..........

 

OOoooohh Now I'm Skeeered The Mighty Shadow WARNED me !!!!! ROFLMAO He thinks a few shots to Bivols bicep was enough to win him 4 rounds LOL Be patient with him he doesn't know any better

 

I respect your knowledge and thoughts on the matter. Still think Gamboa and Lara had similar careers. Gamboas style doesnt age as well but in his peak he was better than Lara, again, in my opinion. Lara's best performance is case for a 7-5 win against Canelo (officially a loss) while Gamboa never had an "A" level opponent (other than Crawford) as Mikey ducked him and I think there was a reason for that.

So in comparing Canelos top opponents to Crawford's the line isnt as distinct when circumstances are reviewed. Bivol, Floyd, Lara, and GGG. Canelo literally couldve gone 0-3-1 or if you liked a draw in GGG2 (which was okay too) 0-2-2. The difference between Canelo and Crawford is that Canelo has a large volume of B wins including over BJS (albeit inactive), Plant, and Callum Smith (very solid win). Canelo's wins over Cotto (much older) and Kovalev (suspect as hell) were a good collection of names but both guys were shells of their former selves.

Had Crawford got opportunity to fight Thurman and Danny and Manny and Ugas (and not be blocked out by Haymon/PBC) Crawford would have as many B wins as Canelo with a lot less asterisks (assuming Crawford continued dominating which I think he would).

Crawford's only A opponent was Spence and every expert in the boxing world has seemingly tried to at least partially discredit that win which is wrong.

 

Both gamboa n Lara are mostly hypedjobs who did nothing after a certain win n stayed in off season with their fans praising them for doing nadain

 

Ehem

 

Not on the same level for sure. He’s better.

 

Like fine milk.

 

Aint nobody saying **** now

 

@ellerbe always has garbage takes. Nothing new