Crawford Porter PPV Flops - Only 135,000 buys

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by shadow111, Nov 25, 2021.

  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Aug 1, 2012
    Bob Arum quoted earlier this month that it would get between 500,000 - 1,500,000 buys

    “The other platforms don’t do particularly well on PPV. We thought, and I’m sure it’s going to work, going on ESPN+ exclusively, we will do UFC kind of PPV numbers,” Arum insisted during a recent Zoom media conference call to discuss the upcoming event. “[It] can be as low as 500,000 and as high as a million and a half.

    “That’s our goal. I really believe these fighters, Terence and Porter, are in for a big, big surprise when they see the PPV results.”

    They were in for a surprise alright Bob. Nothing close to old Bob's prediction. Arum is so out of touch with reality it's not even funny. Bob thought Bud could do Canelo numbers lol. Not only that but Porter is a much bigger name than Plant.
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  2. tee_birch

    tee_birch Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jul 6, 2014
    Did more than I expected to be honest.
  3. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

    Oct 26, 2005
    That's what happens when fighters lack charisma, speaking of Crawford
  4. Hitmanstyle

    Hitmanstyle Active Member Full Member

    Jul 11, 2013
    I'd like to know how real that number is. Many of the media members who report on PPV numbers are also super cozy with the PBC. So could be some political stuff going on here.
    Objectively speaking though his natural fan base is more with the PBC. The right move for him would be to switch to the PBC.
    Either way its pretty obvious who would be the economic A-side if he were to fight Spence. I'm not super interested in Bud vs Spence if I'm being honest. Spence is a slow starter and Bud makes adjustments and pulls away from all his opponents. It would end up being a one sided beat down. If Thurman has anything less that might be a more entertaining scrap.
    IMO Virgil Ortiz is the best WW right now.
  5. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 1, 2010
    It flopped because of POOR promotion.

    That's all it comes down to.

    Look at the UFC....they can make a guy like Jorge Masvidal - with 14 losses - into a big star by just keeping up the promotion of the guy.

    Boxing promotion sucks.
  6. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Jul 1, 2010
    Canelo does not have charisma

    Golokee can barely speak English

    Both were promoted HEAVILY and they created brand loyalty from customers who were willing to pay to watch them.

    This is where Arum has failed in his job towards Crawford - to create brand awareness via way of marketing.
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  7. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Jun 15, 2010
    Part time boxer / commentator Porter Vs dry Crawford fish. Surprised it did that many tbh
  8. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 The Original 101.3 Full Member

    Mar 17, 2018
    Just had to get a Clenelo reference in there
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  9. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Addict Full Member

    Apr 6, 2016
    Not the first time I've heard Arum try and use ufc ppv numbers on ESPN+ as why it would work.

    The guy is dilussional
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  10. senpai

    senpai Active Member Full Member

    May 18, 2021
    Well, Arum was right when he said that Crawford don't sell to well. Maybe that is why he don't want him anymore like that.

    Does PBC want that kind of salesman ?
  11. panchman69

    panchman69 Well-Known Member Full Member

    Sep 10, 2012
    crawford has more charisma than spence or tank davis, hes an undefeated sadistic killer inside the ring, with highlight real knockouts. its bobs job to get the public to see that and get exposure to him. its not wonder everyone leaves top rank, bob arum is just a lazy fool.
  12. Bofo24

    Bofo24 Member Full Member

    Mar 21, 2019
    Hence Spence is the apparent A-side.
  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

    Jul 21, 2009
    People can try and shift the blame onto OG Bob as much as they want but the cold, harsh truth is Crawford has no personality and unlike that bland emotionless ginger mannequin toad Clenelo he doesn't have that ready made Mexican fanbase behind him who'll dip their fingers in their pockets to watch him fight no matter which corpse they dig up from the graveyard for him to fight.

    Terry and Errol have been playing the barking dogs either side of the fence game for years now, both giving it large when there's a barrier between them but when push comes to shove they refuse to come to the negotiating table to try and get the fight made because neither of them truly want that smoke with each other because they both think it's a fight they can potentially lose. If both of them truly wanted that smoke the fight would've been made many moons ago.
  14. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    May 29, 2007
    Can’t even match Spence numbers and they think they can get a 50:50 split. The only reason it got more than 100 PPV buys was because of Porter. For some reason Bud does not sell on PPV.
  15. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    May 29, 2007
    Bob needs to learn to adapt the promoting strategy for certain fighters and personalities. No point having the best fighter in the world of no one knows who he is.