Crawford v Alvarez

The difference between you and me????? lol... Who cares about the differences between you and I. We're all individuals and bound to be different. I'm not on this forum looking for others to validate my opinions, I'm an old man, I couldn't care less! lol...

You claim that Bud isn't looking to compete at 168 and that he's only looking for a legacy fight, I'm not in disagreement nor am I disputing that and as a fan of Bud I definitely would want that for him but more importantly, I'd want for him the money that he would make fighting Ginger, but I've never argued what Bud does or doesn't want or deserve. That's what you're trying argue, not me.

Did Kell Brook need to compete at middle weight to get a crack at GGG?? No,! Does Bud need to compete at SMW to get a crack at Ginger??? No! But that isn't my point or argument. That's your argument, not mine!

I'll make it easier for you to understand my point. Do you think Beterbiev's P4P ranking would go up if he fought and defeated Bud?? I'm almost certain that if Beterbiev were to accept a fight against Bud it would be solely for the money and nothing else. That fight would do nothing for Beterbiev's legacy or P4P ranking, he's suppose to beat Bud because he's 3 divisions bigger. Beterbiev doesn't have the fan base to make $35 million fighting mandatories, so he might be willing to fight Bud for the money and nothing else.

Ginger on the other hand doesn't need to fight Bud to make S-hit loads of money and he's already clearly stated that fighting Bud would do absolutely nothing for him. Those are his words, I just happen to agree with him.

You bring up the phrase "double standards" as if I'm arguing what Bud does or doesn't deserve. I think Bud's a great fighter, I think he deserves to be more known so he could be making at least $35 million per fight. I'm not disputing Bud's accolades, I think you are.

I also think that Bud beat Madrimov. I say by 2 rounds, you say by 4, cool, but we both agree that he deserved the win. Hope you don't try to argue why he won by 4 rounds instead of 2.

Ginger has stated that fighting Bud would get him no recognition because he's 2 divisions smaller, I agree, you obviously don't. Cool bro, you're entitled to your opinion...

I'm thinking that you're gonna start arguing that Ginger doesn't want to fight Bud because he's physically afraid to fight Bud. Goodness, I hope not, but you might...

 

LOL......

You are funny kid/young man, don't know which it is, but you certainly aren't over the age of 22. You actually pray that Ginger/Bud get's made, your words not mine.

"I pray to God this fight gets made." is what you've stated in this thread. I promise you that when you reach passed the age of 35 or 40 you won't feel like that no matter who your favorite fighter is.

You're beyond a Bud fanboy and got your feelings hurt because I believe Ginger's words when he says that a victory over Bud does nothing for his status. It doesn't! You don't believe that??? Too bad! You're probably better off writing Ginger or his manager and telling them why they're wrong about their opinion. They might believe you and change their mind, but he's already said that he's willing to fight if the price is right. In his words, not mine "it's easy money". Which means he'll fight him for money not because he believes it will add to his legacy nor raise his P4P status.

None of my replies to you are about raising Ginger's greatness nor diminishing Bud's talent. It bothers you so much that folks on the internet can't see what you see in Bud nor view Bud the way you do. Who cares?? Unless you're his freaking wife or Bud himself...

Tell you what, "I believe Bud is the best fighter ever, he'll beat the crap out of Ginger and deserves to make the money that Ginger is making!" Does that make you feel better???

You're not here to discuss the sport that we love, you're here to deceivingly spread your narrative and then get angry and insulting when folks don't feel the way you do.

I believe Bud won a close fight over Madrimov, you don't think so? too bad! The judges felt differently as well as other folks, but I must secretly hate Bud or there must be some conspiracy against Bud because everybody should feel that it wasn't a close fight, everybody should see the fight the way you saw it. pfff......

Next you'll be challenging me to a fist fight because I don't think Ginger beating Bud raises his P4P status.

Boxing fans appreciate all fighters, not just their favorite fighter. Fanboys dream about their favorite fighter and pray that fights get made so their favorite fighter can win to then be celebrated like a king.....

My point has been simple, I don't believe Ginger beating Bud raises his P4P status and I've stated why. You disagree? Cool! Agree to disagree, or go ahead and continue to reply with emotional rants. But because you're a Bud fanboy, you're probably better off arguing with a Ginger fanboy....

 

LOL.... . Emotional, emotional.. Maybe you're the dumb chick with the WIFI trying to insult folks because your feelings were hurt over somebody on a message board stating that Ginger's P4P status wouldn't budge if he beats Bud.

My initial post expressing my opinion was respectful and rather short. You got triggered so decided to drag it out and tried to insult not just me, but another poster who wasn't disrespectful towards you, just because we had a different opinion.

You should humble yourself kid. You pretend to have the inside on boxing matters as if it means something on a freaking message board, but you don't. On some other thread you claimed to have heard that Eddie and Turki were no longer working together so I corrected you and told you that they were working on a massive Riyadh card in February, but you didn't believe me so I had to post a link and low and behold that February fight card is happening.

On another thread you refused to believe that Turki actually thought that Bivol had beaten Beterbiev. The poster who made the claim attached the article that stated that fact but you still didn't believe him claiming that the article could have been written by anybody with WIFI. So the poster had to post an actual video clip of Turki actually saying that he felt Bivol had won.

You started this thread by claiming that you had heard from the circle you run with, that has connections to Crawford's people, state that Turki and Canelo are on the brink of closing the deal on Ginger vs Bud in May with Tank on the undercard. Some poster had to correct you and tell you that it would be impossible for Tank to be on the card because Tank is scheduled to fight in March.

I could go on and mention other silly things you are wrong about but what's the point??? Humble yourself kid you don't know as much as you think you know and don't be so quick to try and insult folks just because their opinions differ from yours, especially when they're not being disrespectful. Or maybe take your anxiety medication before logging onto this board so you're not triggered so easily....

 

I'd probably be expecting Canelo to win, but I don't think this is the death march for Crawford some have made it out to be. Bud is a very skilled fighter and it's not like Canelo's advantages are insurmountable. Hell, Crawford would still be coming into the fight with a height and reach advantage. Not a be all end all type of thing in fights, as we saw over this past weekend, but it sure doesn't hurt. In his last four fights Canelo hasn't looked that great in the back half either, and that's working against guys far less talented.

That said though, Crawford would be getting hit harder than he has been before in a boxing match, and Canelo's been able to ground each of those last four opponents, mostly in the early rounds. Less talented than Bud or not, these are still guys who have been fighting in or close to the 168 division for a lot longer and are therefore more acclimated to that level of power. The exception of course is Charlo, but even he'd been fighting at 154 for years, so the jump was still a bit less drastic for him than it would be for Crawford, who has only had one fight in that division.

It'd be an uphill battle for Crawford for sure, but him winning isn't out of the question by any means. Boxing is the theater of the unknown, after all