Crawford vs Benavidez does 1.8 metered market rating

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  1. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Based on?

    He's closer to 15th than 3rd.

    A shot Dimitrenko almost just KOd Ortiz's best win.....And he wasn't on gear :lol:
     
  2. drenlou

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    No, the first round KO proved that he wasn't that good to begin with. Warren beat him, and this takes nothing away from inoue, it's just payano wasn't meant to be his test.
     
  3. ellerbe

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    LMAO you're comparing Jennings who was coming off giving Wlad his toughest fight in A LONG time to a Jennings who has become irrelevant since ORtiz blasted him out?
     
  4. ellerbe

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    No, it means Inoue has the power to stop anyone in 1 rd. Which is what I stated. Payano has wins over Warren and Moreno. 2 former world champs. Bone arguably beat Lipinets ffs lmao, yet Mikey went 12. Is Mikey not the real deal? Has Lipinets even beat a Warren or Moreno?
     
  5. drenlou

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    Each fight is different. I don'tt compare fights the way you do, because that's a recipe for disaster as you've already seen first hand.
     
  6. ellerbe

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    I just want you to be consistent and hold everyone to the same standard. But it seems like you hold different standards depending on if you're a fan of someone or not.
     
  7. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Jennings has never been 'relevant' in the HW division.

    Another US HW hypejob that wouldn't be top 15 at any point in his career, if it wasn't for his nationality.
     
  8. drenlou

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    You're all over the plac. One fight has no correlation with any other fight. All fights are different. Payano got blasted out, Because he wasn't that good to begin with. I knew this going in which was why I said what I said. You argued and you lost.

    Lipinits is a good fighter, and gave Mikey a good go at his most confident moment. Bone being competive says nothing negative about lipinits the same way benevidez is nothing negative for Crawford. Styles make fights, and no one fight is comparable to another.
     
  9. ellerbe

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    I'm not all over the place. I'm trying to test your consistency. Payano got blasted out because Inoue has the power to stop anyone in that division in 1rd. But sure keep trying to discredit Inoue.

    Good fighter? LMAO, based off what? Who did he beat? Bone arguably beat Lipinets, it wasnt just competitive. Payano has beat better opposition than Lipinets. By your standards Mikey is not the real deal. Also Inoue went 10 with some random thai, so he's not the real deal in your books right? Holding a fighter to a standard where he has to stop an unstopped former world champ in under 6 to prove he's the "real deal" is just ridiculous. I don't see you applying those standards for ANY of your favorite boxers.
     
  10. drenlou

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    It's a same standard I hold to everybody. Im just more adapt to recognizing what's possible and what's not. 5-0 in bets on here speaks for itself. First poster to predict draws in Kirk's league, 2x.Lol
     
  11. ellerbe

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    LMAO no you don't. Stop dren. Show me one post where you said if Canelo/Mikey doesn't stop said opponent in 6 they're not the real deal.
     
  12. drenlou

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    It's not discrediting inoue at all. Payano iwasnt the test you hoped forr. Was Martin the test For Joshua?

    Good fighter is based off of the skillset one possess. Lipinites win over Lenny z was a good win, in a fight where it really showed his durability and heart. Bone lost imo. And Mikey is judged on his resume in whole, not one fight. Your logic is really confusing to me.

    And again, I know wut inoue is capable of. Ffs he favoured to knock out every fighter ihe faces in this ttournament and most likely will. You were boosting up Payano like he was so solid, I knew he wasn't and I was right, you were wrong. But as simply as I put it, his real test hasn't happened yet .
     
  13. JacK Rauber

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    Not terribly surprising for two reasons. One, the Mexican boxing fan will show up for this kind of a fight. Their undefeated guy may beat Bud. Two, it was free.
     
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  14. ellerbe

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    I never said Payano would be the test. My whole point was Payano has never been close to being stopped and he has wins over 2 world champs. Holding Inoue to the standard of he has to stop someone within 6 rounds to prove he's the real deal is ridiculous. Martin completely lucked out against the Ukranian who was injured. He never beat former world champs. Not comparable.

    I agree Mikey's resume is based on his whole resume. His resume is definitely better than Inoue's but really how good is it? His best wins are against Easter, Broner and Salido. None of these guys are elite. So until he fights an A level opponent doesn't he have to keep proving he's the real deal? Since he didn't blast Lipinets who arguably lost to Bone in 6 rounds and it went to the distance, I guess he's not the real deal.

    Lipinets win over Lenny Z was a good win but Payano's win over Moreno and Warren weren't good wins? LMAO gtfo man. LOL and you claim I'm trying to boost Payano up? What are you trying to do with Lipinets. Payano is solid, Inoue is just a different level of special to blast him out that quick.

    I wasn't wrong. I said Inoue could blast him out in the 1st round. I was just willing to do the bet for shits and giggles. LOL @ you trying to play it off like I was adamant about Payano making it past 6 and saying there's no way he wouldn't.
     
  15. drenlou

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    They're not looked as KO monsters on here. They're technically brilliant fighters on here, they rely heavily on their skills to get them through because basically they're smaller guys mooving up to fight bigger guys. That's common sense. Inoue was too big in the lower weight classes and will probably go as high as 135 before his career ends, So it wouldn't be surprising seeing him knock out everyonne in this tournament. His true test is yet to come.